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Re: . [fintail] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 03, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 03, 2009 2:21 pm)

Each insurance company is different with percentage of demand to declare a total, but in some states that percentage is regulated. I think 75%--80% of value is the norm.
 
Yes, if a third party is involved you can make a claim for diminution of value, even if the car is fixed properly (and especially if it doesn't look right or drive right)...but this will require that you hire an appraiser to establish the amount of diminution, and you must expect that the opposing insurance company will fight you to the death over a DV claim. They hate that. So be prepared for a long struggle and make sure it's worth it in terms of dollars and sense. An appraisal might cost you $250. If that doesn't work and they deny your DV, you have to hire an attorney.
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Just in case by marsha7
May 03, 2009 (4:24 pm)
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you had one more question, (altho shifty's answer was great) if the car is totalled, there is no diminshed value compensation...some folks do not realize that, so I thought I would throw it in...
 
also, in GA, I think they automatically include DV if the car is fixed and there IS DV...remember, if a fender was scraped and all it needed was new paint, the car has not really lost any value...if the chassis was bent or doors/frame damaged, then the car will be worth a lesser amount at trade-in...
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Re: Just in case [marsha7] by fintail
May 03, 2009 (5:35 pm)
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Replying to: marsha7 (May 03, 2009 4:24 pm)

Yeah, I know it's just worth what it's worth if it is totaled - she just bought the car about 3 months ago, and she got a relatively good deal on it, so it shouldn't have sunk too much. If it comes to that, she will just replace it with another similar car - buying a Corolla is like buying a can of pop, they are everywhere. I probably shouldn't have mentioned the vehicle history stuff to her...it'll be nagging in her head.
 
I wish I could see the car - if it just needs a trunk and a couple of bumpers, it's not a big deal, but the impact was enough to break a seat belt, which has me leery of structural damage. I told her to make sure the doors all open and shut normally, and the panel gaps around the doors are all uniform. She mentioned the misaligned hood a few times, I could tell that was bugging her.
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Re: . [Mr_Shiftright] by fintail
May 03, 2009 (5:38 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 03, 2009 3:30 pm)

I think her car is going to be borderline, by the way it was described. I remember when my friend's old Monte Carlo got hit, they wanted to total it at 50% or so...but he wanted the car fixed, so he fought for a higher value.
 
This insurance company is also going to be paying some medical claims on top of the damaged car...so they won't be happy if the loss of resale value is mentioned I'm sure. It's her mess, I told her if she gets kickback to just refer it to her insurance agent.
 
Looks like I might get to go car shopping this coming weekend...or see a disabled car in a body shop.
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Getting a written report from Insurance company by veki
May 31, 2009 (9:23 pm)
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Hi,
My insurance company has decided to total my car (99 Camry LE) after a curb-hit accident. They have given me their repair estimate and the actual cash value details. But they are not willing to give me a written report with the business reason of their decision to total the car.
From their repair estimate and the current value of the car, the repairs are close to 69% of the car's value. They told me over the phone that they do not think it is worth repairing the car at this repair estimate.
 
Is there any reason for not documenting their conclusion in black and white? Is it OK for me to insist on a written document in this regard?
 
Thanks in advance for your time,
VeKi
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Re: Getting a written report from Insurance company [veki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 01, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: veki (May 31, 2009 9:23 pm)

I think they already told you the reason, but sure, you could have them write that down.
 
If you don't want the car totaled, then you'll have to get your own appraisal regarding Fair Market Value of the car (not the damage, but the VALUE just before the accident). If you get a higher value from that appraiser, then the percentage calculations for totalling (it varies from company to company, although in some states it's required to total at a certain % of damage vs. valle) changes. The problem is, of course, getting them to accept your appraiser's estimate vs. theirs. Of course your appraiser might agree with them, that's always a risk.
 
You may want to read over your policy and see what it says about this. You can also contact your State Insurance Commission.
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Re: Getting a written report from Insurance company [Mr_Shiftright] by veki
Jun 01, 2009 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 01, 2009 6:11 am)

Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my query. Appreciate it much.
I did some research myself on a replacement car of the same make, model, features and I found that I will be paying some extra money from my pocket apart from the settlement that I will get from my insurance.
 
I too share your concerns w.r.t hiring an appraiser.
 
I called the state insurance commission and they too opined that the insurance company can put their decision in writing. They also mentioned that I could open a complaint online for them to review this further....
 
I will talk to the manager once and see where it takes.... In the current environment, I don't have the time or energy to drag this further with the insurance company.
 
Thanks again,
Veki
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Re: Getting a written report from Insurance company [veki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 01, 2009 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: veki (Jun 01, 2009 7:21 am)

Well this unfortunately is sometimes your only option with insurance companies---you either invest time and money to achieve a better settlement or you roll over and take what they give you. If you'd like, you can post the exact year make model options and condition of your vehicle, and what they offered you, and I'd be glad to make a guess as to whether it was reasonably fair or not.
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Re: Getting a written report from Insurance company [Mr_Shiftright] by veki
Jun 01, 2009 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 01, 2009 8:18 am)

Hi,
You are right. At this moment, I have too many other things happening and am finding this to be draining me already.
 
Thanks for offering to review the details. Here is my car information. I have copied most of it from their list.
1999 Toyota Camry LE, 4 Cyl, 4 Door sedan with 113042 miles, I am the only owner.
 
Automatic Transmission AT Standard
Overdrive OD Standard
Power Steering PS Standard
Power Brakes PB Standard
Power Windows PW Standard
Power Locks PL Standard
Power Mirrors PM Standard
 
Air Conditioning AC Standard
Rear Defogger RD Standard
Intermittent Wipers IW Standard
Tilt Wheel TW Standard
Cruise Control CC Standard
Keyless Entry KE
Console/Storage CN Standard
Console armrest
 
Seating
Cloth Seats CS Standard
Bucket Seats BS Standard
 
Radio
AM Radio AM Standard
FM Radio FM Standard
Stereo ST Standard
Cassette CA Standard
CD Player CD
 
Wheels
Full Wheel Covers FC Standard
 
Safety/Brakes
Drivers Side Air Bag AG Standard
Passenger Air Bag RG Standard
Alarm TD
Anti-Lock Brakes (4) ABS
4-Wheel Disc Brakes DB Reported
 
Exterior/Paint/Glass
Clearcoat Paint IP
Metallic Paint MP
Body Side Moldings BN Standard
Dual Mirrors DM Standard
 
Interior is good, minor paint spots in the exterior. Insurance esimtates total adjustments for such as $52.
 
Cash value offered for the car 5400
Tax 324 + title 60
Final settlement amount : $5784.00
 
Let me know if you need any additional details.
 
Thanks again,
VeKi
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Re: Getting a written report from Insurance company [veki] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Jun 01, 2009 (8:58 am)
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Replying to: veki (Jun 01, 2009 8:48 am)

IMO the settlement is fair.

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