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Re: Try asking the Porsche [marsha7] by fezo
Apr 28, 2008 (11:59 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Apr 27, 2008 1:31 pm)

"While I am not an adjuster, if a Porsche only has $1,600.00 in damage, it sounds like a dented fender or scratched piece of chrome, as NOTHING only costs $1600 on a Porsche except maybe a replacement ashtray or cigar lighter..."
 
You forgot an oil change.
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fezo by marsha7
Apr 28, 2008 (12:17 pm)
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Synthetic or dino??????????????????????
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Re: minor accident [glitter695] by blueiedgod
May 01, 2008 (5:27 pm)
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Replying to: glitter695 (Feb 21, 2008 6:46 am)

I accidently hit someone from the back. I lifted my foot off the break while sitting in line while getting my money from my purse....
 
Drive manual!!!!
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Re: minor accident [blueiedgod] by thebigal
May 02, 2008 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (May 01, 2008 5:27 pm)

oh so now she can roll backward into the car behind her???
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Re: minor accident [thebigal] by euphonium
May 03, 2008 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: thebigal (May 02, 2008 9:45 pm)

Seattle's hills taught me to stop farther behind the vehicle at the stop sign because the BMW driver with the stick shift will often roll backwards before getting the clutch fully engaged and then kill the engine anyway.
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Re: minor accident [euphonium] by thebigal
May 04, 2008 (7:39 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (May 03, 2008 9:18 am)

and then they can roll even further backward while trying to get it started again ;D...
 
although I do remember my first days of learning to drive a stick on an old Datsun pickup... clutch so worn out you didn't even need to use it except to get into reverse or first....
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Need help fighting auto insurance company by satire
May 06, 2008 (11:12 am)
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Am having a difficult time in dealing with Farmers Insurance. I was hit by their insured and they are not acting in good faith. Nor are they offering a reasonable settlement. I've put up a web page that details everything. If anyone has any suggestions or comments, I would love to hear them:
 
www.prine.net/farmers.htm
 
Many thanks.
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Re: Need help fighting auto insurance company [satire] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 06, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: satire (May 06, 2008 11:12 am)

They might be a little light on the settlement but you are asking too much. Best thing that could probably happen is that you'll have to get your car appraised, then you'll go into arbitration and the referee will probably split the difference. It's worth it for you to go to arbitration but I don't think you'll end up with more than $8,000 to $10,000 tops, which would be generous. The trick is to find an appraiser who will appraise the car quite high, and of course he'll have to prove that value.
 
Otherwise, you'll have to sue them and that of course gets very expensive.
 
Insurance law is written against the consumer. If you are seeking fair market value, that's one thing, go for it. If you are seeking "justice", that's pretty hopeless under the current system.
 
It comes down to whether or not this is the hill you wish to die on, or whether you can cut your best deal and move on.
 
If they gave you $10K, you could buy yourself a very tasty 300CE---not YOURS, regrettably, but something similar I think.
 
SEE HERE:
 
'93 Benz 300CE for sale
 
So my advice would be play tough but be realistic in your numbers. The cards are stacked against you anyway, so arbitration might be your only hope. Maybe some appraiser will value it at $15,000, who knows? then the "split" down the middle gets better for you. It's a game, really. The insurance company doesn't CARE if you win or if they lose. It's all about bottom line at the end of the year.
 
Under the present insurance laws, the victim is usually punished.
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Re: Need help fighting auto insurance company [satire] by euphonium
May 07, 2008 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: satire (May 06, 2008 11:12 am)

Having read the entire website of your verbiage and farmers reply..........
 
Items of maintenance do not add to a vehicle's value, they are maintenance not improvements.
 
It is speculation that someday your M/B will be a classic, but you were not t boned in the some day future. The car was damaged before it achieved any superficial status such as collector's car.
 
You are responsible for the storage fees because it is your car and the storage facility can file a mechanics lien on the owner of the vehicle, not anyone else.
 
Because I have a collectible car with collectors plate, you have my empathy, but not much sympathy due to your "know it all" attitude in your communications with farmers. (You lost control of the claim when you insisted on not using the telephone.) That you are an Insurance Broker could mean you are not a Casualty Broker, but just a Life & Health agent.
 
Were I to arbitrate your claim, you'd get exactly what the farmers offer. Asking for $99 a day because you drove an old luxury car is unfair, because it is an expense you did not actually endure.
 
Finally, farmers is looking at your car objectively. No insurance company is out to screw you over, nor are they out there to support your love affair you have with your ride. What does your husband say about the problem?
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Re: Need help fighting auto insurance company [euphonium] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 07, 2008 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (May 07, 2008 5:51 pm)

No I don't think they are out to INTENTIONALLY and maliciously screw people, but they know you have to play by the rules, and they wrote the rules, and if you don't play by them, they will hammer you with the rules until you are sickeningly familiar with them.
 
The legal obligation of the insurance company is to compensate you fairly for the fair market value of your car, period, as it sat 10 seconds before the accident. Injuries are a separate matter and handled in another type of claim--and settled separately as well.
 
As for the storage, future collectibility, etc., that's all going to be thrown out, if you read your insurance policy as you agreed to it.
 
It's all about market value as determined by the supply and demand equation. How many 300CEs are out there and how many people want them, and there's your market price in a nutshell. They buyers ultimately determine market value, not you, not the insurance company. What the owners and insurance companies do is *research* that market, and, as is human nature, try to tilt things each their own way.

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