Sign In Join 



Questions About Auto Insurance & Accidents

4406 messages,  Last post on Oct 17, 2009 at 9:53 AM

You are in the Smart Shopper Forum. Your Hosts are kirstie_h & tidester

What is this discussion about? Buying Insurance


Messages Page 316 of 441
1
...
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
...
441
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion

#3151 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 16, 2007 (11:35 am)
Reply

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 16, 2007 11:01 am)

Sure, if their investigation doesn't jive with what's on his application, they certainly can raise the rates.
#3152 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [Mr_Shiftright] by oldfarmer50
Aug 16, 2007 (1:38 pm)
Reply

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 16, 2007 11:35 am)

"...if the investigation doesn't jive..."
 
Well, I gave them all the dirty details so there should be no surprise.
#3153 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 16, 2007 (6:18 pm)
Reply

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 16, 2007 1:38 pm)

Well insurance companies can be slimey nonetheless...but if you played it straight, as I'm sure you did, then there should be no cause that I can think of. Of course, it's not real until you see it in writing.
#3154 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [oldfarmer50] by euphonium
Aug 16, 2007 (8:08 pm)
Reply

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 16, 2007 11:01 am)

If he applied for insurance in my agency, we would place him in the Assigned Risk Pool based on what you have said.
 
How can you be sure you know his complete driving history as there may be other incidents he "forgot" to tell you?
 
As he is just four miles to work, a bicycle is in order - just for the safety of others on the roads.
#3155 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [euphonium] by oldfarmer50
Aug 17, 2007 (2:03 am)
Reply

Replying to: euphonium (Aug 16, 2007 8:08 pm)

"...other incidents he "forgot" to tell you..."
 
I'm pretty sure I got them all. As I said I was on the phone with the company rep and he was able to access my son's record. I know this because one ticket he got was "speed too high for road conditions". The menu on their web site didn't have that exact offense so I picked "other minor violation". The rep noticed this and after I explained why I had listed it the way I did he said: "The rate is still the same".
 
I have to assume that if I had missed anything else he would have mentioned it at that time.
 
As for the bike idea, that would be Ok for the summer but here in upstate NY bikes are not practical in the winter. Besides, drivers here like to use bikes for target practice. Two bikers have been killed in the past weeks by hit and runs. My son may not be perfect but I don't think he should get the death penalty.
#3156 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [oldfarmer50] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 17, 2007 (9:19 am)
Reply

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 17, 2007 2:03 am)

cops in upstate NY are tyrants in my experience. I think they were voted "worst in America" in some car magazine, as I recall...even beat Texas and Chicago (I know, I know, "don't mess with..etc etc.")
#3157 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [Mr_Shiftright] by oldfarmer50
Aug 17, 2007 (12:51 pm)
Reply

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Aug 17, 2007 9:19 am)

"...cops in upstate NY are tyrants..."
 
I'm not so sure I'd call them tyrants but it pays not to piss them off. Half of my son's points came from the one accident. He slid on ice coming down a hill, slid through a stop sign and over an embankment into the woods.
 
This was in January, he was cold so instead of calling the police he called a friend and went to the friend's house to warm up (and I guess to come up with an excuse for why my car was in the trees).
 
In the meantime the police dragged me out of bed thinking I had been driving. When they saw it wasn't me and there was no one with the car they brought out the bloodhounds to search for him. By the time I located my son the police were in a rare mood. I made sure to accompany him back to the scene because I was afraid they would work him over if they got him alone.
 
In the end they took it out on him by writing multiple tickets.
#3158 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [oldfarmer50] by euphonium
Aug 17, 2007 (2:33 pm)
Reply

Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Aug 17, 2007 12:51 pm)

After coming up on the scene of a one car crash and finding nobody in or near the wreck, it is very thoughtful of the police to use dogs to search for an injured person wandering around the woods in a daze. It is more thoughtful to wait for the police so as to advise them they needn't call out the dogs. Leaving the scene is not recommended until you've checked in with the authorities.
Don't be afraid of Police as they are there to "Serve and Protect" so I trust you thanked them for searching for your errant son.
#3159 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [euphonium] by oldfarmer50
Aug 17, 2007 (2:50 pm)
Reply

Replying to: euphonium (Aug 17, 2007 2:33 pm)

"...thoughtful of the police to use dogs..."
 
It sure was. It was after they found out he was OK that both my and the police's mood changed.
 
"...Leaving the scene is not recommended..."
 
No it is not. It can even get you a ticket
 
"...I trust you thanked them..."
 
Yes I did. And I insisted that my son apologize to each officer. I still would not have left him alone with them though. Police are people too and they can make bad judgments in the heat of the moment, just like teenagers.
#3160 of 4406
Re: Can't figure this one... [euphonium] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 17, 2007 (5:27 pm)
Reply

Replying to: euphonium (Aug 17, 2007 2:33 pm)

Absolutely right. You can't generalize and you can't give away your rights to the police. Police need to be watched and monitored by the community just like politicians, the military and, to veer back on topic....your insurance company. Otherwise you are just asking for abuses to crop up.
 
Supposedly state insurance boards are supposed to regulate insurance companies and protect the consumer, but one has to wonder. I've tried to file a complaint against an insurance company for violation of state regulations. It's a sobering experience.
 
No wonder there are so many class actions suits flying around right now.
 
Here's an interesting website on the subject--but I have no idea how accurate or fair it is--
 
http://www.badfaithinsurance.org/

Messages Page 316 of 441
1
...
313
314
315
316
317
318
319
...
441
Prev
Next
Last
Go To Msg #
Search This Discussion
To POST a message, please Sign In.

New? Join Now!

Forum Tools

Please sign in.
Email Address:

Password:

Forgot Password?

Search Forums

Enter Keyword(s)

Advanced Search

Browse by Vehicle



View All Vehicles
Advertisement
Ask the Community
See What People Are Asking

Browse by Board

Browse by Topic


View All Topics

Today's Chats

Advertisement