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This is a sticky by marsha7
Jul 18, 2006 (12:36 pm)
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issue that is difficult to get around...obviously, an insurance company will want to know if you have been treating for lower back pain, neck pain, or whatever for the last 10 years...they use the info to try and minimize your claim......but they really have no right to know your sexual history, any gyno problems you may have had, lung cancer, wart surgeries, or whatever...
 
And, if you have ever made an insurance claim for any health problem, injury-related or not, you claims are on a master file called the MIB (medical information bureau) which they have access to...it is used specifically to determine if you have made any prior claims by coded symptom in the diagnosis (example, 724.2 means lower back pain, 784.0 is headaches, 723.1 is neck pain)...
 
I really do not know what to tell you to do...as an attorney, when I get clients med records, I only send the relevant records to the liability carrier and argue from there, as I will protect my client's interest and privacy the best I can...when you do this on your own, I can understand why you feel your privacy is at risk, but w/o records they may not pay the claim...
 
Difficult dilemma, but I refuse to tell you what YOU should do, because you will interact differently with an insurance company than I will...sadly, it is one of the advantages of working with an attorney, so I can't recommend how much of your life you should expose to the world...
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Re: Medical Authorization [smoochy] by euphonium
Jul 18, 2006 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: smoochy (Jul 18, 2006 11:13 am)

Attn: Adjuster
Thank you for sending your standard Medical Authorization form. As this form encompases issues not related to the accident, please resend a Medical Authorization for issues only related to the accident. I understand you have generic forms, but as I'm not a generic insured - a specific and individually taylored form would be more acceptable. Your understanding and cooperation is appreciated.
 
S. Moochy
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Re: Medical Authorization [euphonium] by tidester HOST
Jul 18, 2006 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: euphonium (Jul 18, 2006 8:21 pm)

To the party to whom I am writing:
 
Apparently you have difficulty reading. Our standard policy which you hold clearly specifies in section 892 subsections sections 67 though 71 paragraphs 123, 124 and 125 that the Insurer shall have total, complete and on-demand access to all relevant information about you, your life, your income, your friends, children, spouses and so on both public and private. Moreover, your payment of the first premium and your filing a claim constitute your agreement that the absolute need on our part is absolute.
 
You are to return the standard medical form completed in full with all required information by noon tomorrow or your policy WILL be cancelled per the requirements of Section 1024b, subsection 121y paragraph 27 of our contract.
 
Don't mess with the insurance company!
 
Signed,
 
Ernestine, formerly the head TELEPHONE COMPANY OPERATOR!
 
I couldn't resist!
tidester, host
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Re: Medical Authorization [tidester] by euphonium
Jul 19, 2006 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: tidester (Jul 18, 2006 8:45 pm)

All I signed was the application for coverage and none of your verbiage was agreed to prior to the accident so attend to my original request without further correspondance otherwise. It's not my style to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed adjuster.
 
Signed, S Moochy
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There is one thought by marsha7
Jul 19, 2006 (9:26 am)
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that comes to mind, but I do not know if they will accept it...you could try what I do, which is go to all of your treating doctors and hospitals for this accident, and request your records from the accident only, and also itemized bills...they already know that group ins will subrogate so showing payments is not a problem...
 
Submit the bills with the records, make your demand, and see what happens...
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Re: [miagarfunckle]assigning value to totaled cars by kim1066
Jul 19, 2006 (2:53 pm)
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Replying to: miagarfunckle (Feb 14, 2002 5:40 pm)

Hi! I'm new to the forum, had a similar question. Thank you for the info. My isurance company is using what they call "fair market value" to assign value to my car. It sounds very similar to what you described, however, when I did my own research into cost of similar and equal vehicles by my zip code, I got much higher values than what they claim is fair market value. Is this a common practice among insurance companies to assign lower values and have the consumer argue for a better value, or is this process difficult and often mistakes are made? The amount they are assigning my car, in prisine condition prior to the wreck is 4,000 less than I owe on the vehicle, and 5,000 less than what it would cost me to buy the exact same vehicle (albeit not totalled ) if I wanted to replace it. Thank you for any help you can provide!
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Re: [miagarfunckle]assigning value to totaled cars [kim1066] by steine13
Jul 19, 2006 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: kim1066 (Jul 19, 2006 2:53 pm)

We needs more information. What you have provided is a scenario, but nothing to work with.
 
Please give the make, model, year, mileage, trim level, engine, and transmission of your car. Describe its condition, and tell us what your insurance co. is offering. Then we may be able to give you an idea of where you stand.
 
Used-car valuation is an art more than a science, and without seeing the car, it's particularly difficult. OTOH, you've come to the place; there's a lot of knowledge on these boards.
 
I suspect that like most people, you have no idea what you can buy a similar car for. Remember, ads never show you what cars are "going for". They only show what they're "not going for", inasmuch they all ain't sold yet...
 
$4k behind asking price is often doable on a $27k vehicle; maybe on a $15k vehicle -- if the dealer was really greedy -- and probably not on a $9k vehicle. So we really need to know what's going on.
 
What you owe on the vehicle has, of course, no bearing at all on the payout. Unless you have GAP coverage.
 
-Mathias
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kim1066 by marsha7
Jul 19, 2006 (7:01 pm)
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Another item I find with insurance companies is that they "inadvertently" [] look up the wrong model of car...example...you have a 2004 Honda Accord EX-L (leather) and they look up the value for a 2004 Accord LX...I believe the base MSRP difference between these two models is at least $3-5,000, due to the leather, V6, auto, sunroof, etc....so when they say on the phone, "Yeah, your 2004 Accord according to our book is worth $9,500", because they said just enough to identify your car, but they really did not get too specific about your car, and at a moment like that, you think you heard them describe your car...I believ it is more common than you think...
 
Maybe it can't happen to cars like Lexus SC430, since they are probebly all decked to the max and sell for similar MSRP, but cars like Accord, Camry, that are sold at multiple levels of equipment with specific designations (like DX, LX, EX, EX-L) are easy to confuse you...
 
I would check your own sources first (edmunds, kbb, nada) to get a nice average value for YOUR car with YOUR level of equipment, then call them and ask how they arrived at their value and what car did they actually look up???
 
Also remember that aftermarket equipment rarely adds value to the vehicle, like special wheels, new tires, recent maintenance (valve jobs, brakes, tires, exhaust)...but a new engine or transmission bought in the last six months can usually recover 50% of cost if you can prove cost with paid receipts...
 
Also, as properly stated by steine, the value of your car has NOTHING to do with what you owe on it...if your car is worth $15K but you owe $18K, you will have to dip in your wallet for the extra $3K to pay off the totalled car, unless you have GAP...sad, but true...
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Vandalism/Break In - Will they raise my rate? by nynewcar
Jul 23, 2006 (9:11 am)
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Our car was broken into a couple of nights ago, while standing in our driveway. Front passenger window was broken. The insurance company refuses to give a straight answer as to whether claiming this will increase our rates. They say they can only tell us after we submit a claim.
 
Is there any way we can make an educated guess before we decide whether to submit a claim? What factors would affect the decision?
 
TIA
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Re: Vandalism/Break In - Will they raise my rate? [nynewcar] by mikefm58
Jul 23, 2006 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: nynewcar (Jul 23, 2006 9:11 am)

My son's Mustang was broken in to in 2003, several thousand in damage, didn't affect his rates. I've had two claims for glass damage on my 99 CRV since I've owned it, hasn't affected my rates. With most reputable ins. companies, I don't think comprehensive claims affect your rates as much as collision claims.

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