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#7 of 669 2001 Tib improves its appeal
Feb 08, 2002 (6:25 pm)
Today I stopped by a Hyundai dealer to look at the 2003, and they had one in the color I craved the most, blue. It was quite pretty to look at. Right next to it was a 2001, also in blue.
Having owned a 2000 Cobalt Blue Tib and currently having a 2001 Super Silver Tib in the garage (it's my girlfriend's) next to my Sonata, I'm intimately familiar with the pluses and minuses of the soon to be vintage Tiburon.
What I wasn't prepared for, after all the talk, pictures, and specs for the 2003 was how little it moved me when I saw it in the flesh, especially next to the old Tib. The interior is an improvement, but not enough of an improvement. The high slab sides make the doors too high for casual arm resting when the windows are open. There are way too many unused holes plugged up with covers. The vents, the instrument cluster, the switches, and the sound system don't look like they were designed to be together.
As much as I could talk about the deficiencies of some of the materials in the older Tib, I'd have to say it's a much more organic and consistent statement. My arm hangs nicely out the window. There aren't numerous plugged openings.
As pretty as the new Tib is, it looked less pretty next to the older Tiburon, especially from the inside looking out.
#8 of 669 2001 vs. 2003
Feb 10, 2002 (8:07 am)
Well, we finally saw one. After being told they wouldn't arrive in Colorado until April or May I happened upon 3 of them at 2 seperate dealerships. My wife and I own a 2001 Santa Fe and a 2001 Tiburon and the notion of the same engine in the new Tib piqued our curiosity. Pictures didn't do the car justice. I could go either way on how the car looks now versus the 2001. What surprised me the most was that my wife actually preferred the look of the new one. We bought the 2001 Tib for her (but I like driving it too). What we both agreed on, however, was that the interior of the 2003 was preety poor. If they could have done some more styling by combining the interior of the 2001 with something new in the 2003 it would have been more appealing. I also didn't think the stereo was all that great, but I wasn't really playing with it as much as I should have. We did bring our own CD and from the get-go felt the 100 watt upgraded stereo int he 2001 was better. I even had the bass cranked up as far as it would go but didn't really notice anything. One note - the subwoofer is actually the new Infinity Basslink (from the looks of it in the trunk). I just purchased one (not installed yet) for the Santa Fe. I thought that was interesting. Two of the cars were in Boulder and both were GT's with the shiftronic. That was what we wanted to test drive. My wife can't drive a stick and I hate the thought of sports cars with automatics. Since driving the Santa Fe I really enjoy being able to drive both (manual or automatic). We were only allowed to drive 5 miles TOTAL. That was disappointing. But it was a FAST 5 miles. The car accelerated beautilfully without hesitation. It handled a little better than the 2001 in my opinion. After all of this waiting I took the car back, got out and realized I never even tried the shiftronic. It really took off. I can't imagine a 5 or 6-speed manual transmission.
We really liked the exterior (except for the side mirrors). Disliked the interior. I also noticed the hatchback opened so high I was almost on my tippy-toes trying to close it and I stand at 6ft. I then noticed the inside handle molded into the plastic to assist you with pulling the lid down. The spare tire was very easy to get to due to a tri-folded tire cover that fold back instead of having to completely remove the cover as in the 2001 Tibs. The hood was the best part. When opened there is no need for the bar to hold up the hood of the car. There are two, for lack of the right terminology, shock-absorber looking thingies holding it up. Very nice. At least until they wear out and smack someone in the head. All in all very easy to open and close compared to the slamming of the hood and trunk in the 2001.
Now my wife and are throwing in for consideration (because we weren't sold right away) the fact that you get a bigger/better engine, remote keyless entry, ABS, and side airbags making the car a little safer in our minds than our current Tiburon. We aren't sure if we want to buy the new one. If we do, I'm certain we will enjoy it but will we have made the right decision? Only time will tell.
#9 of 669 I too, am a little on the fence about the 2003-------
Feb 10, 2002 (8:36 am)
visage: IF you do decide to trade the 2001 ( I have one too)on a 2003 please let us know what they offerd on trade. The usual price packing aside I bet they will insult you with their offer. If I do decide to go for a 2003 I think I'll just keep the 2001 out of the deal and sell it myself.
#10 of 669 2001 trade-in
Feb 11, 2002 (6:42 am)
hudrahead: I spoke with the same guy that sold us the 2001 Tib. He said he only had 1 base model 2001 left on the lot and that with our silver Tib, leather, tinted windows and stereo upgrade he said they would do "very well" selling our car. I told him we were thinking about either trading it in or selling on our own because I could get more for it. We'll have to wait and see. We bought our current Tib in August and it has less than 4,000 miles on it. It should prove to be attractive either way. We paid cash for the Tib ($16,400) out the door in August. The salesman knows we don't need to buy the new Tib for any reason other than we like it. It is NOT a neccessity. That is why the plates on the Tib say, "WANT". According to Dr. Phil McGraw (my wife is a HUGE Oprah fan) when making big purchases you have to ask yourself, "is it a need or a want?" The Santa Fe was a "need" (not sure if I want to get plates that say that) and the Tib was a "want". The sales guy knows I refuse to pay MSRP. I did forget to mention that the loaded GT we test drove with the Shiftronic (no sunroof or ABS) was just over $19,000 (MSRP). So, no mark-up that I could tell. He needs to make the trade and subsequent sale VERY attractive to pull another couple of thousand dollars out of my pocket.
#11 of 669 Just saw one
Feb 11, 2002 (6:44 am)
I was not expecting to see one at a dealership until Mid-march, so I was pleasently surprised to see one parked outside the dealership showroom Saturday night.
I like the exterior a lot. The windows look pretty squat and the one thing that concerns me about them is visiblity and blind spots. I'll have to watch that when I take it for a test drive.
Wasn't able to see the interior, so I'll wait to comment on that.
Sticker Price was $17,500 while the MSRP is $15,999. (This was the 4-cyclinder car.)
Until I test drive it I won't know for sure but it I think I'll be happy that I held out for a 2003 instead of buying the 2001.
#12 of 669 After the "madness" wears off
Feb 11, 2002 (7:38 am)
it's just the same old story. Buying on emotion is NOT the way to go but the dealers play this to the hilt for the folks that just have to "have it NOW" for the next big thing in this case the 2003 Tiburon. We have all seen this before with the intro of the Miata and more recently the PT Cruiser. Things are back to normal with those cars and now all can be had for under invoice most dealers, The T-Bird is another example of the same stupidity people have in these cases.The T-Bird can be had already at some of the smaller "backwater" dealers for MSRP here in Floria & Georgia if you shop around. Not uncommon for dealers in the "big city " to mark 'em up. or try anyway,at least 5K over MSRP. I'd have to want a T-Bird pretty darn bad to pay that and anything much over invoice for a 2003 Tib as well. hudrahead
#13 of 669 I agree:
Feb 11, 2002 (9:03 am)
By early summer we are sure to see some deals start to appear on these new Tiburons. My old clunker just needs to hold out for another 5 months.
I hope Edmonds updates the Sats on the Tiburons Car Comparision Tool sheet soon. I would like to see alot of those blanks and N/A's filled in so I can compare the numbers of the 4 banger vs. the V-6 models.
#14 of 669 "Market Adjustment"??
Feb 13, 2002 (8:38 pm)
I stopped by a local dealer today to check out sticker price on the '03 Tib. The delaer added "fabric protection" and pinstriping after he received the car (I HATE when dealers do this...if I wanted those things, I'd ask you to do it).
But the thing that really struck me is that they added a line called "market adjustment" for $2000...bringing the total price of the car to nearly $3000 over the MSRP sticker that was next to it.
I asked the salesperson, and he told me that they jacked up the price because they're selling well. He asked what he could do "to get me in the car today" (how cliche). I told him to stop overinflating his prices. Needless to say, the conversation ended there.
Have others seen such BLATANT raising of the prices over MSRP?
Feb 14, 2002 (9:28 am)
Why is ABS unavailable for the '03 Tib GT with the automatic? You can get it in the 4 cyl '03 (but you have to get the head room robbing sunroof) but it is not offered in the GT.
Has anyone ever heard of adding aftermarket ABS to a car?
#16 of 669 BLATANT raising of the prices over MSRP
Feb 14, 2002 (11:53 am)
This happens all the time -- take the Acura MDX, Honda S2000, Honda Odyssey and for a while, the Nissan Xterra and PT Cruiser. The Honda products are still being priced WAY above MSRP because demand exceeds supply. As long as someone will pay the price that the dealer wants, the dealer will continue to raise the prices. It's all these "I want to be first in my neighborhood to have the car" people that ruins it for the rest of us.