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Hyundai Tiburon, Coupe, Hatchback
#124 of 669 One last one!
Mar 02, 2003 (4:50 am)
Yeah, I know I said I was done. I woke up this morning and had it on my mind that you guys just don't understand my point. Yes, I do understand your point.
My point is if Hyundai could take all the people that bought the Tiburon and when they brought their car in for service modify the car to have the rated 180 horsepower, guess what, you would be driving that car out of the dealer saying, "I don't feel any difference."
Like I said before, yes I understand the point of Hyundai should have had it right with the correct rating, but the complaint is about that wouldn't effect you anyway(in reality). You would never notice, so why should it matter so much? Like I also said before, I could see if it was something that effects you, like hey, the car you bought "supposed" to have ABS and doesn't. Then I would say, hey I agree, there's a problem.
The whole deal here is, well Hyundai wasn't completely truthful. In reality, hey it doesn't effect people anyway, but they feel they were they were cheated. Like ilovemysephia1 put it, and I agree, "In a deal like this and immediately it's a sue-happy compensate me now mentality they put on." SAD... Very SAD!!
And yes, this is the last post for me, we are going to be out there enjoying our newest addition. Enjoy yours all!! "The Tib is a sweet ride."
And I must say, we already have a 2000 Toyota Celica GT-S, 1999 Mercury Cougar CE, and a 2003 Mitsibishi Eclipse GT-S in our driveway and for the price, I can't believe how good the Tiburon is. It's in a class with all the other cars and a sticker of about 5 grand less. MUCH better warranty, too!
#125 of 669 Hi Folks - Gotta ask that people
Mar 02, 2003 (6:54 am)
here focus on what they think... instead of exasperating over other people's opinions. In other word, please leave out the personal comments/jabs (posts 122, 123).
Also, perhaps it's time for some of you to just agree to disagree on certain issues (i.e. Hp). Let's not forget that people like/buy cars for different reasons; and berating people for their opinions will usually not change their attitude... or create any sort of understanding.
Lastly, just a reminder that this discussion was set up primarily for Tiburon owners to share their experiences and news. Please respect their space.
If you any question/comments regarding this matter, please send me an email. And let's get back to the subject of Hyundai Tiburon Owner Experiences & News! Thanks!
Hatchbacks & Wagons Boards
#126 of 669 Hey, redcat, if you happen to look back here I'll say
Mar 02, 2003 (7:02 am)
this: ENJOY YOUR SWEET NEW RIDE! It's nice to see people who can just realize a good deal when they see one and flick this "I'm gonna sue" BS that permeates this money-grubbing society we live in in America. The new-gen Tiburon is the coolest looking car on the road and the price-point is great. Early indications from owners after having them on American roads for a little over a year now are that the car is holding up very well in the long run. Biggest concerns from people on the Internet car chat sites with this beautiful new car: chipping paint by the spoiler and door sill(the driver's side door has more complaints than the passenger)and the moonroof getting stuck. Yes, the Long-Haul is taking care of people with these issues. I hope to own a new-generation Tiburon in the future. In the meantime I'm loving my 2001 Kia Sportage 4x4(the '99 Sephia I coined my nickname from is gone-it did it's job though)and I am so thankful for the recent influx of South Korean cars into the U.S. Great styling and reliable transportation with a killer warranty. Did I mention great low prices? Oh, resale value. Yes, resale value lags with these cars. Still. Oh well, I'll just have to go outside and shine up me Sporty-the Pepper Red is beautiful when the sport-ute is clean. Not a bad rig to be stuck with. Built like a tank but amazingly quiet ride. Believe me these South Korean cars are a great deal. What's so cool is the South Koreans style their cars in a way that makes me reminisce the Chevy Nova SS's of the early 60's or Ford Mustang of the mid 60's or the Chevy Chevelle of the mid-to-late 60's. No kidding. It's a beautiful thing to witness.
#127 of 669 2003 Tib ------->
Mar 02, 2003 (4:14 pm)
I will once again reiterate my posting (#98 in this forum) statements. I love my new Tiburon GT-V6. As for the HP miscalculations, I have to somewhat agree with redcat... when I bought it I thought it had 181 HP, but when I received the mailing telling me otherwise I was just surprised, not in a good or bad way, just surprised. I don't know who had a hand in testing the HP over there in Korea, but I am sure that whoever was messing up the ratings still has a footprint on their backside from getting booted out of the door. I was happy to take the extension of the bumper-to-bumper warranty from 5 to six years.
My friend has a Mercury Cougar (2.5L V6) and we both think that my car feels faster. His car is a bit lighter, but the torque is what you really "feel" pushing you back in your seat. Since the Tib's 181 ft/lbs of torque is much more than the Cougar's 165 ft/lbs it seems to pull harder and push you back to your seat more.
The real difference (11 HP) is negligible anyways as this is just the flywheel rating. US specs are quoted at the flywheel, not the tires. This means that most cars make less "actual" horsepwer than advertised anyway. Drivetrain losses are what attribute to this happening.
This goes with exception of a few vehicles that are either turbo or supercharged. Manufacturers sometimes rate these at the lowest engine output (when the engine is very hot causing the forced-induction air to be hotter). The new Dodge Neon SRT-4 is a perfect example of this. Dodge claims 225 HP at the flywheel, while it is actually much higher. The Neon puts out 223 HP at the wheels! This information can be found on the Sport Compact Car Magazine website(www.sportcompactcarweb.com). This magazine dynos most of the cars it tests. This method directly calculates how much a car puts out at the wheels (which is where the power is actually put down).
If you would like to see the dyno results of the Tiburon from an acutal test done by Sport Compact Car Mag then go to the following link
This puts the actual output of the engine at 148 peak HP and the torque peaks at 161 ft/lbs. None of this really matters to me because I love this car the way it is. I might eventually put some simple mods on just to increase throttle response (K&N air filter, a more freely flowing exhaust), but these aren't even necessary as the car performs the way I expected, whether the HP is 181 (first claimed), 170 (now claimed), or 148 (actual HP at wheels). Hope this helps everyone.
#128 of 669 Tiburon Dynos
Mar 03, 2003 (9:02 am)
11 horsepower at the flywheel, assuming a 15% loss through the drivetrain is about 9 horsepower to the wheels...or wheel lol. If it were just peak horsepower you would probably not really notice it. If it were an average increase of 9 horsepower throughout the power band, then you would notice it.
Anywho...when the numbers were orignally published, they were listed as 181 hp and 171 lb-ft. of torque. It seems as if the numbers were just transposed.
#129 of 669 Which means that a mistake is a mistake...............
Mar 03, 2003 (10:10 pm)
and nothing else. I gotta get a new Tib! That car is so cool looking I can't believe it! 171hp or 181hp or whatever. Who cares! Not I said the fly.
#130 of 669 Just my feelings
Mar 07, 2003 (11:07 pm)
I have been working on the Tiburon's (delta V-6) for racing and believe I have found out why the stated horse power went from 181 to 170. First to those of you that feel you were cheated. You were because you were told 181 and now are told its 170. I feel Hyundai got caught in there little lie. This engine has casting and material design problems. How do I know this because I have destroyed three v-6 engines trying to tune them. Grant you I put quite a bit more stress on these engines then most of you will ever do. I feel these engines were suppose to be capable of more hp but were purposely detuned because the engine can not withstand the stress. Particularly the engine bearing caps which have torn out of the engine on me. This happens because they casted this engine wrong and it would have cost too much to go back and do it right. So they have this engine running at 170 to prevent these problems. They also have the idle speed at start up set high. This is why your engine revs so high in the morning when you get in. This is to heat up the aluminum block and prevent any damage. Still love this car just don't modify the v-6!!! They can't take it. If you must play do it with the 4.
#131 of 669 cgbd1273, yes, this has been explained before but a lot
Mar 08, 2003 (5:09 am)
of enthusiasts probably have not read it yet. Just what you have described has been laid out in detail in numerous articles. No doubt if you're really interested in this beautiful sports car you already have found this information out. The only tunable 2003 Tiburon is the 2.0L 16 valve DOHC 4 cyl. Your post is a good reminder, though and good information that hopefully people will see and follow.
#132 of 669 Iluvmysephia1...
Mar 13, 2003 (9:48 am)
When I stated in my post that "latinracer" should get with a contingency fee lawyer and sue Hyundai I was being sarcastic.
I believe his whole argument is petty and plain silly.
#133 of 669 couple of questions
Mar 15, 2003 (11:49 pm)
Thanks for everyone's enlightening and interesting discussion; it has really helped me make my final decision to buy a Tiburon GT-V6 6 speed. I do have a couple of questions. Is it possible to order the GT-V6 package 17 without the high spoiler? I prefer the looks of the low spoiler. Also, is it true that you do not have to pay sales tax on out-of-state purchases? How about internet car purchases?