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#7417 of 7456 Re: Ecoboost in Ford's Future and current CX-7 [saabturboid] by volkov Aug 18, 2008 (11:10 am)
Replying to: saabturboid (Aug 18, 2008 10:35 am) Remember too that some of the older Turbo engines which started the bad press were basically N/a engines with a turbo slapped on them for more power. The newer gen turbo engines are engineered as such from the drawing board.
#7418 of 7456 Re: Ecoboost in Ford's Future and current CX-7 [saabturboid] by baggs32 Aug 18, 2008 (5:03 pm)
Replying to: saabturboid (Aug 18, 2008 10:35 am) Had Mazda backed off the high levels of boost which also require increased fuel flow, they could have had a 200hp vehicle that got 30mpg on the highway rather than a 225hp vehicle that gets 24mpg. Now that everyone is focusing on fuel economy I trust Ford will do the latter with Ecoboost.   Did you mean the former maybe?   I think you are exactly right. For example, Ford has stated that the 3.5L EB can make up to about 420 HP with similar torque. Since the first vehicles to get it are only going to output 340 HP it seems they are holding back on peak performance in the name of fuel efficiency. Or at least reaching a happy medium anyway. Replies to this message: coldcranker (Aug 19, 2008 9:11 am)
#7419 of 7456 Re: Ecoboost in Ford's Future and current CX-7 [baggs32] by coldcranker Aug 19, 2008 (9:11 am)
Replying to: baggs32 (Aug 18, 2008 5:03 pm) baggs32 and others writing in this forum do understand that a 4-cylinder is not harmonically balanced via its geometry, right? Some people might not understand that. For example, a V6 has a 60 degree V-angle because that creates a harmonically balanced engine. A 4-banger needs a balance shaft or two, further causing internal engine stresses. Now add a turbo with high compression for good MPG, and you've got an engine to give the NVH engineers problems. Also notice that a 4-cylinder produces fewer power strokes per revolution, further adding to the smoothness problems. Inherent problems. Big obstacles.   About the Saab turbos getting better MPG than the non-aspirated versions, thats just not true. Take a look at the '94 Saab 9000 turbo and non-turbo, and subject them to the same fuel economy tests to control the variables in order to get the emotions and old wives tales out of the picture, and see the turbo gets 26 MPG on the highway and the non-turbo gets 27 MPG. Close, though. Still, for the modest HP gains Saab got in the turbo 4, that 1 MPG loss could have been achieved with a V6 at similar power (like the Freestyle's V6, which gets better MPG in a much heavier vehicle than the Saab 9000).   Also remember with turbos and Ecoboost that you must find a way to keep the compression ratio above 10:1 and have it use regular gas, which is very difficult. Thats why the MazdaCX7 has a compression ratio of 9.5:1, not good for gas mileage, and the Mazda engine still requires premium gas. Turbos also increase exhaust back pressure, further reducing MPG. When all is said and done, the added torque you get from the turbo is more than paid for by high back pressure and low compression ratio, so you don't really get something for nothing.   The solution for Ecoboost is to maintain a high compression ratio through use of VVT and direct injection, with the lower internal engine friction of a 4-cylinder helping, too. I don't see how they are going to do it without using some of MIT's alcohol boosting tricks to make Ecoboost actually deliver 20%+ fuel economy gains. See Alcohol boosting of half-sized turbo direct injection engines for fuel economy..click here
#7420 of 7456 Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [larryqw] by captndp Sep 26, 2008 (8:25 pm)
Replying to: larryqw (Feb 22, 2008 12:49 pm) How did you get the phone to pir with the stereo? I have the TX ltd., Nav and dvd but phone will not pair.
#7421 of 7456 Re: Status of water leak issue? [cmuniz] by snorkelbobby Oct 17, 2008 (5:24 pm)
Replying to: cmuniz (Apr 16, 2008 5:23 am) the moon roof water leak ocurrs when you park the car facing uphill when it rains. The 2 rear drains go slightly uphill and that causes water to back up in the moon roof trough and overflow into the car. The drains run all the way back to the rear and route around the side air bags causing the uphill routing. There is a TSB to fix the issue and it was fixed in production in 2006 sometime. If you park facing downhill, the water drains easily down the 2 front drains.
#7422 of 7456 Watching dvds & listening to music at the same time? by nelsont Oct 20, 2008 (4:59 pm)
I'm a new owner of the 2007 Freestyle Limited. I'm waiting on delivery of my owner's manual, but I have a question now that I'm hoping some can help me with. The car has a factory installed dvd system that we love having. I'm wondering though if I have to listen to the dvd movies the kids are watching while I want to listen to music? We have the wireless headphones, and they work well, but I cannot figure out a way to listen to the radio or cd while the dvd player is showing a movie? If it's not possible, I understand...just hopeful.   Thanks so much in advance. Replies to this message: larryqw (Oct 20, 2008 7:38 pm) dgmac (Oct 21, 2008 12:01 pm)
#7423 of 7456 Re: Watching dvds & listening to music at the same time? [nelsont] by larryqw Oct 20, 2008 (7:38 pm)
Replying to: nelsont (Oct 20, 2008 4:59 pm) On my Taurus X with the DVD, I just hit the Rear Headphone button on the Nav screen, and then set up what media goes to Channel A and B. Channel B can only do the DVD or Aux input jacks.   With the headphones engaged, the sound only comes out of the front speakers so the rear isn't bombarded with sound it doesn't need.   To engage your system, I suggest you read your manual. If it's missing, you can get it from the Ford site. Go to the Myford section using the tab at the upper right.
#7424 of 7456 Re: Watching dvds & listening to music at the same time? [nelsont] by dgmac Oct 21, 2008 (12:01 pm)
Replying to: nelsont (Oct 20, 2008 4:59 pm) Hit 2 & 4 buttons on the radio. It will toggle between single and dual mode.
#7425 of 7456 Pulling the plug by steve_ HOST Dec 05, 2008 (8:50 am)
"DEARBORN, Michigan — The Ford Taurus X will be discontinued in February, Ford spokesman Alan Hall confirmed to Inside Line on Thursday."   Ford Pulls the Plug On Taurus X (Inside Line) Replies to this message: coldcranker (Dec 05, 2008 10:01 am) vrm (Jan 15, 2009 3:55 pm) stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 5:16 pm) and 6 more...
#7426 of 7456 Re: Pulling the plug [steve_] by coldcranker Dec 05, 2008 (10:01 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Dec 05, 2008 8:50 am) TaurusX cancelled. We saw that coming. Ford has the Flex, which is really a bigger, enhanced TaurusX/Freestyle based on the Volvo-derived chassis, and the Edge, slightly smaller and based on the Mazda6-derived chassis. In addition, Ford wants to completely change the Explorer soon to make it a Volvo-derived chassis like the Flex/Freestyle/TaurusX. Who needs the TaurusX with all that going on? Replies to this message: vrm (Jan 15, 2009 3:55 pm) stevedebi (Jan 15, 2009 5:16 pm) coldcranker (Jan 15, 2009 5:46 pm) and 5 more...

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