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Re: Clicking noise on acceleration at 10 mph approx. [tpbc] by amckenz1
Jun 23, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: tpbc (Jul 22, 2005 7:50 am)

Did you ever find a solution for this? The same thing is happening to me. A very audible clicking sound that comes from somewhere behind the glovebox. When I start the car in the morning it clicks about 5 times and then stops. It happens after I start the car later in the day, but not all the time (more than 10% though).
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Clicking sound coming from behind glovebox by amckenz1
Jun 23, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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I have an '05 FWD Ford Freestyle. When I start hte car in the morning I hear a very audible clicking noise that seems to originate somewhere behind the glovebox area. It clicks about 5-6 times and then stops as I slowly accelerate. If I start the car later in the day, it's not guaranteed that it will happen, but probably does 30-40% of the time.
Has anyone one else encountered this or know where it's coming from?
Any help/direction would be much appreciated
 
Thanks!
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Re: Clicking noise on acceleration at 10 mph approx. [amckenz1] by elibruno
Jun 23, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: amckenz1 (Jun 23, 2008 2:11 pm)

had this same noise and Ford dealer quickly diagnosed and fixed it under warrantee - it is some type of A/C machinery part that Countryside Ford of Clearwater told me is common, not dangerous and easy to replace part. So discuss it with your service dept and tell them where I got quick resolution!
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More Powerful old 3.0L Duratec for the Escape by coldcranker
Jul 07, 2008 (3:04 pm)
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Should current Freestyle owners be upset about this? Ford found a way to get more power and fuel economy out of the 1995-vintage Duratec V6 design. I have an '05 Freestyle with 203 HP and 18/25 EPA rating (new rating method here), and the '09 Ford Escape is getting a 240 HP version of the same engine that is said to get 1 MPG more. Since the basic engine design goes all the way back to the early 90's, why couldn't Ford have "discovered" the way to make this engine more powerful and slightly more fuel efficient just 4 years earlier, in time to take away the critics of the Freestyle who say 203 HP is just not enough.
 
I wonder if Ford will allow me to trade my 203 HP 3.0L Duratec for the new 240 HP one? Should bolt right in. A little extra power with more fuel economy is always welcome.
 
Also, why not drop the 240 HP 3.0L Duratec in to the Taurus & TaurusX for more fuel economy with gas at $4 per gallon? That would give the Ford Edge the more powerful, newer 3.5L Duratec for some differentiation with the TaurusX at least, making the Edge the "sporty" one and the TaurusX the more serious utility model. Ford would still have the larger Flex with the newer/bigger V6; more differentiation there for the luxury crossover. Ford, are you listening to my wise opinion?
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Re: More Powerful old 3.0L Duratec for the Escape [coldcranker] by ronsmith38
Jul 07, 2008 (4:13 pm)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 07, 2008 3:04 pm)

Who knows, maybe the only difference is a new chip!
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Re: More Powerful old 3.0L Duratec for the Escape [coldcranker] by stevedebi
Jul 08, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: coldcranker (Jul 07, 2008 3:04 pm)

" I have an '05 Freestyle with 203 HP and 18/25 EPA rating (new rating method here), and the '09 Ford Escape is getting a 240 HP version of the same engine that is said to get 1 MPG more."
 
I think ford has added a version of VVT to the new engine, that technology wasn't available until this year for the 3.0.
 
Also, note that the Escape is 600 lbs (at least) lighter than the FS, and the engine might not yield the same 1 MPG advantage in your FS.
 
Any "engine swap" would also have to modify the CPU code so that the transmission and engine were matched correctly.
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Re: More Powerful old 3.0L Duratec for the Escape [stevedebi] by coldcranker
Jul 09, 2008 (7:06 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Jul 08, 2008 10:31 am)

Replying to the last post, remember that the variable valve timing version of the venerable 3.0L Duratec was available in Jaguars and Lincoln LSs since about 2002, and even the lower-cost 2006 Fusion had the VVT version of the Duratec V6.
 
I got some more info on what Ford did to evolve the 3.0L Duratec for the '09 Escape from Motor Trend: new intake and exhaust manifold shapes, new fuel injectors, higher compression ratio ( I think from 10.0 to 10.3), new heads, variable valve timing, and revised valve cams. Those changes would have been great just a little earlier. Ford could not find the budget to do this over the period from 1994 to 2007 to the Duratec 3.0L V6 while it was being put into everything on the planet. Now other V6s are taking over where it used to be, while the 3.0L V6 finds its way into fewer and fewer applications. Maybe it will make a comeback as fuel efficiency gets priority. Fusions and Escapes still get it, although Taurus no longer has it.
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Backward technology by mschmal
Jul 22, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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I think the new features for the 3.0L Duratec were thing that Ford developed for the 3.5L engine and then has adapted backwards to the 3.0L.
 
Mark
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Re: Backward technology [mschmal] by coldcranker
Jul 22, 2008 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jul 22, 2008 2:32 pm)

The 2001 Jaguar S-type had a 240 hp 3.0L Duratec version. Mazdas have had a variable valve timing version for a few years now. Also, remember the 3.5L is a new and completely different design compared to the old 3.0L Duratec. Not sure where the new '09 Ford Escape 240 hp version came from. Its difficult to follow, but the design history, dating back to the 1994 Ford Mondeo, is at Duratec history to now link
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How Do I Disable The Freestyle Alarm? by jimhalpert
Jul 24, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Can anyone tell me how to disable the Freestyle alarm? Thanks so much!!

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