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Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, SUV
#7296 of 7481 Re: 2008 Taurus X came with ROOF RAILS but no ROOF RAIL RACK [freealfas]
Mar 10, 2008 (12:54 pm)
I'm also looking for cross bars for my Taurus X. No crossbars are currently available from Ford, supposedly coming later this year! That sucks even more.
Yakima has some listed for the Taurus X, a LowRider claw that only fits on the first raised part of the rail. The separation is so small, only a few things can be carried. Nevertheless, my Yakima dealer sees a way to use a Yakima foot and tower with a metal block placed in the slot to allow the whole length to be used.
I suspect crossbars weren't included standard for reasons of appearance, cost, and air drag on gas mileage.
#7297 of 7481 Re: 2008 Taurus X came with ROOF RAILS but no ROOF RAIL RACK [larryqw]
Mar 10, 2008 (12:59 pm)
just looked at a Tre-X picture on the Ford site, what were they thinking by mounting the back half of the roof rails tighter to the roof line then on the FS. I have the Yakima bars that Ford sold as a accessory mounted with no problems. doing what they did they effectively mae the side rails all but useless.
#7298 of 7481 Adding IKT (Integrated Keyhead Transmitters) How do you program the remote?
Mar 11, 2008 (10:29 am)
I read the owners manual which says you can have up to 8 PATS keys recognized by the Antitheft system 4 of which can be IKT keys which have the integrated remotes. The manual goes into placing 2 active keys into the ignition, turning them on and off and placing the new key to be learned into the ingition and the having it recognized by the vehicle. I have done this before on Ford vehicles. What I question is the statement that if you are adding an IKT it will program the transmitter so that the remote will function with the vehicle. On non-IKT vehicles you must use the buttons on the remote to allow it to transmit RF and then be recognized by the vehicle.
Will someone who KNOWS HOW TO PROGRAM IKTs please respond as I do not want to purchase an IKT and wind up with only the equivalent of a PATS key. I am also assuming that anytime you learn a new key you must program ALL KEYS that you want to work in the same vehicle. Is that correct?
#7299 of 7481 Re: Adding IKT (Integrated Keyhead Transmitters) How do you program the remote? [bighank1]
Mar 11, 2008 (2:04 pm)
Bighank1, I just programmed my IKT for my Taurus X, in order to get a third key. Here's how it works.
The IKT is an "Integrated Keyhead Transmitter". What that means is that the engine security coding, when placing the key in the ignition, and the remote transmitter of the usual separate remote part are now integrated as one security element in the key head. So indeed you only need to do the programming once, and both the engine security, and remote control operation will then work with the one IKT programming. It's nice having just one thing to program and work with now.
So indeed programming the IKT also programs and allows remote entry. It worked for me. But as you said, the manual indicates the remote entry function is only allowed on up to four of the eight IKTs that can be programmed. I've only used three IKTs so far and all the remotes work.
You only need to reprogram all keys if you don't have two keys that are already active.
One note on the programming a third key from two active keys. You need to do it just right and it's not clear from the manual (page 149 on T-X), although I found the instructions were correct. I had a lot trouble and even the dealer couldn't help. I had to look it up on the web. Basically, you need to really wait long enough but not too long, like 6 seconds after turning each active key to on (between 3 and 10 seconds according to the manual). I found the trick was that you'd see the lock symbol change (go off) on the dash a few seconds (~3) after the panel flashes everything. Keeping the key in the "ON" position for those few seconds until the lock symbol finally changes was the right time. You also need to go to the next key within 10 seconds. On the last key you're programming, you need to keep the key in the "ON" position even longer, like around 10 seconds. You then remove it and put it back in again to start the car. Again, watching the "Lock" symbol for changes will give you a clue on timing.
My IKT cost something like $130 at the dealer. I've heard you can get them for very much less on eBay. But I didn't trust they'd work, and didn't want to wait, so I just paid the price.
#7300 of 7481 Freestyle DVD Player - OEM or Aftermkt
Mar 12, 2008 (10:23 am)
We are looking at purchasing a used Freestyle as a replacement for our '02 Windstar and I have a question regarding the DVD player. Ideally, we would like to find one with the DVD player, but in case we don't ( and we probably won't), how many of you have added aftermarket players, and which ones integrate the best.
Now, I'll start by saying I have yet to test one with the OEM System, so I have a few questions in this regard. Our Windstar has the factory VHS player that is situated next to the drivers seat. My wife likes this since she can control what is on as well as the buttons themselves. With the DVD, I understand it's mounted to the ceiling so changing DVD's is probably not an option, but does the driver have controls to turn on the player? Also, how does it integrate with the factory stereo?
Now for questions about aftermarket systems.
For ceiling mounted systems, have you been able to connect them to the factory head unit, or have you had to buy a new one. And with that, have the steering wheel controls still worked?
For headrest systems, I'm not sure if these can itegrate, but if there are those, the same questions as above. Also, how well can the 3rd row passengers see the headrest systems.
#7301 of 7481 Re: Freestyle DVD Player - OEM or Aftermkt [peetert]
Mar 12, 2008 (10:28 am)
We have an '05 Freestyle with the factory DVD system. It works like you described with the DVD player and screen mounted on the ceiling between the first and second rows. The driver can not easily control the DVD player but it does come with a remote so any rear passenger can easily control it. The driver can turn it on and off via the head unit and turn the volume up and down but that is it. Any regular DVD control functions either have to be controlled via the remote or from buttons on the face of the player facing the rear passengers.
Aftermarket players work much the same way so I don't think you are going to find a system that allows you to control everything from up front. I believe the aftermarket players use an RF modulator to transmit the sound to the stock head unit so no change there is necessary and no wiring to the head unit is necessary.
#7302 of 7481 Re: Freestyle DVD Player - OEM or Aftermkt [saabturboid]
Mar 12, 2008 (11:03 am)
With my new Taurus X Limited, I also have the DVD Family Entertainment System along with the Navigation System. It's fabulous and totally integrated into the car at many levels. No aftermarket can compete. It's way more than a DVD player which is why they call it an FES. It can play CDs, MP3 disks, or use A/V input for games. It can also pick different stations from the front panel to play on the headphones independent from what the front speakers playing.
As for your question, from the front LCD, I can control the rear DVD play or stop, fast forward or backward, or chapter skip, in addition to volume and other media selections from up front.
The factory system is much more integrated. For instance, the rear remote can also control the front system, if not locked out. The rear screen shows control menus in integration with the front LCD.
From the Front or Rear (if not locked out from the front), I can also control headphones versus speakers. That is I can have sound on the front speakers and rear speakers off. I can control what sound goes into each channel of the headphones (Channel A can have AM/FM/Satellite/Front CD/Audio In/USB/Bluetooth Streaming/ and all of B; Channel B can have DVD/Rear CD/Rear MP3 disk, and rear AV inputs) Each headphone can flip to channel A or B independently.
For example, driving last week, one young daughter was watching cartoons on the DVD with Channel B on her headphone. My teen daughter streamed her songs from her phone to our car via Bluetooth and listened to it on Channel A. I listened to the Satellite Radio up front, all simultaneously. You may not have everything without SYNC, but you still have a lot of audio inputs available.
The newer FES is wider, thinner, and is up higher and doesn't interfere with the rear view mirror. It only blocks the upper third for middle third of the rear window, or about 1/9 of the view that's usually sky anyway.
I don't know if you can get this newer FES system for the '05 Freestyle, and how well it would integrate, but they should be similar. I'd try with your dealer. It may be the connectors are there and not too bad. You just have to check.
#7303 of 7481 '06 Limited or '07 SEL
Mar 13, 2008 (5:14 am)
First, thanks for the DVD answers, we're still working on what to do with that one. I would like to hear from people who have added an aftermarket, or have found an OEM and added it themselves ( do they prewire so its just plug and play)? I'm pretty handy so a bit of cutting/wiring will not scare me.
Now for this question. In looking at the available inventory around here I'm finding alot of ' 07 SEL's that have nearly all that we are looking for, but also a few '06 Limited's that have everything and more. While I realize, all things being equal, go for the '07 as it is newer, but were there any vast improvements over the 2 model years that would keep me from going for an '06 ( if the price were right ) ? More than likely we'll be keeping this car at least 5 years or so, so by then the years' depreciation will be neglible.
Finally, I've read thorugh the bench/bucket 2nd row threads. Ideally, we would like the buckets for the 2nd row as the third row will be used quite regularly. For you bench seat owners, how easy is it to flip the seat for third row access. We will have a car set in the 2nd row, but it will be in the drivers side.
#7304 of 7481 Re: 2008 Taurus X came with ROOF RAILS but no ROOF RAIL RACK [freealfas]
Mar 13, 2008 (9:55 am)
The rails are slotted on the 2008 TX. The 2007 FS has a boxed rail with no slot. Check if Thule or others can use the slot for mounting.
#7305 of 7481 Re: Adding IKT (Integrated Keyhead Transmitters) How do you program the remote? [larryqw]
Mar 15, 2008 (8:40 am)
Thanks for the info Larry. I have programmed both PATS keys and remote transmitters but not an integrated one into a PATS key. I appreciate your comments. I have purchased several PATS and VATS (keys with a resistor chip in them), as well as remotes for Ford and GM vehicles. Usually when you program a remote transmitter you have to press at least one button. The manual says that the light (on the remote) will flash when it is being programmed if it is an IKT key.
I have purchased the keys and remotes from fleebay with no problems. As long as you get the right key and right FCCID then you are OK. Thanks for sharing your experience as I am going to purchase some keys and if the price is right some IKTs and program them without the stealership markup.