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Re: Territory has similar styling [raezmom3]
by humblecoder
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Mar 02, 2008 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: raezmom3 (Mar 02, 2008 3:48 am)
have a question for you larryqw. Did you get the 6 pass or the 7 pass? I wanted to order the limited 7 pass with ultimate pkg but Ford no longer will make those. They will only make the 6 pass with ultimate pkg. Do you know why? Is it a safety issue?
I know you didn't ask me, but I'll answer your question anyway.
You can get a TX Limited with 7 row seating however. You just can't get it with the ultimate package. As far as I know, Ford NEVER made a 7 passenger version of the Limited TX with the ultimate package.
As you probably know, one of the features included in the ultimate package is heated second row captain's chairs with one-touch folding. So obviously if you couldn't get this feature if you had a second row bench seat, since the bench seat would negate the second row captain's chairs.
What this also means is that you can't also get the power lift gate in the Limited trim if you want 7 passenger seating. That is because the power lift gate only comes with the ultimate package on the Limited trim. The thing that doesn't make sense, though, is that the power lift gate is a standalone option on the SEL and Eddie Bauer trims. So you can get the power lift gate and 7 passenger seating on the lower trims but just not on the Limited trim.
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- #7282 of 7456
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Re: Territory has similar styling [humblecoder]
by cmuniz
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Mar 02, 2008 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Mar 02, 2008 2:23 pm)
I would highly recommend the power lift gate. That is a heavy door to close. I didn't have it in my 05 Freestyle and glad I got it now. Also the power folding 2nd row captains chairs are very handy.
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- #7283 of 7456
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Power Lift Gate [cmuniz]
by larryqw
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Mar 02, 2008 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Mar 02, 2008 2:36 pm)
I chose not to get the Ultimate package with power seats and lift gate. In dealer tests, I found the springs on the seats and lift gate were well adjusted, and I could lift and close the seats and back gate just fine manually. I figured the power system would be slow and just get in my way. The lift gate also has a power pod and arm that gets a little in the way of storage.
Nevertheless, my smaller kids and wife seem to struggle a little with the seats. It might just be it's new and they need a little more training. Like my wife couldn't figure out she needed to lift the lever a second time to unlatch the seat, and doesn't want to listen to me, the way wives tend to be. As for strength, even my 6 year old can lift the second row seat if she uses two hands. However, the monkey she is, she usually folds down the back and then jumps out over the folded back, which is faster for her. I can open and close everything fine with one hand relatively quickly. On the lift gate, opening is very easy for everyone. On closing, it's just the lower part of the swing that's awkward, where I need either to give the gate some extra swift downward momentum, or reposition my hand outside the lift gate for a final push.
I need another week perhaps to be sure and get everyone trained right. But I still think I don't need any of the power lifts and seats. They'd just get in the way.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [humblecoder]
by richfig23
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Mar 03, 2008 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Mar 02, 2008 2:23 pm)
Hey Everyone. I own a Black 2006 Limited AWD (w Navigation and rear entertainment system) with 7 passenger seating and prefer this configuration to the 6 passenger with 2nd row buckets just because it gives me more options. I don't really need 7 passenger seating all the time, but it did come in handy a couple of times so far. And you can sit 3 people in the 2nd row (which I do much more often) without having to utilize the 3rd row. I have to say, it was really disappointing to see how Ford did almost nothing to promote this fine vehicle. Every Ford Ad you see in the local paper promotes every other Ford Vehicle (especially Exploers & Edge), except the Freestyle (Taurus X). It's like it doesn't exist. I've been asked by complete strangers, countless times in parking lots, "what vehicle is that?" Everyone is so suprised how big the interior is and that is has 3 rows. And yes, many peoople think it's a very sharp looking vehicle. I bought my Freestyle in October of 06 with 15K miles for $24K. It was almost new in my eyes and considering the base price of this vehicle with all the options I have was about 36k new, I think I got a bargain. I have not had any problems with this vehicle (I did have the brakes replaced under the extended warranty program). It's not the most powerful vehicle and the gas mialge is not the greatest, but if you don't plan on towing a boat and carrying loads of big objects in the rear, it is the perfect combination of car and SUV. It gives you much better milage than an Explorer and it rides almost like a car. I suspect that Ford never really promoted this vehicle because the profit margins are so much greater on the explorer. When you think about it, the Freestyle has almost the same capacity as an Explorer (except towing), yet the explorer cost so much more. I was reading an review on the new Hyndai VeraCruz in the paper and the reviewer was pointing out all the great feature of this vehicle ($38K with options) and I was saying My Fresstyle Limited has everything this car has. My suggestion for anyone contemplating buying a Freestyle (Taurus X), go ahead and make the purchase. Just stay away from 05's as there were still some kinks that were being worked out in that model year.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [richfig23]
by freealfas
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Mar 03, 2008 (8:43 am)
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Replying to: richfig23 (Mar 03, 2008 7:53 am)
my '05 has been 30k problem free miles short of the rear brakes  18k on our black limited fwd bought new. We're still on the original conti's, religious oil changes/scheduled service have been the only real reason to take it in. A couple of fit/finish items when delivered were dealt with as well.
I'd argue buying a used '05 makes for a good deal as well.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [freealfas]
by passat_2002
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Mar 03, 2008 (9:21 am)
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Replying to: freealfas (Mar 03, 2008 8:43 am)
My '05 Freestyle SEL has been flawless too. I wouldn't shy away from a clean looking '05 model at all.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [richfig23]
by bobw3
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Mar 03, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: richfig23 (Mar 03, 2008 7:53 am)
I like the 2nd row bench because from time to time we'll sit three in the back and can have a lot of cargo space. To me the captain chair option is just a waste of the center seat in the 2nd row because you're having to use the 3rd row more often. I do wish that the center position in the bench had a fold down armrest when not in use.
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- #7288 of 7456
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Re: Territory has similar styling [bobw3]
by humblecoder
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Mar 03, 2008 (5:15 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Mar 03, 2008 11:26 am)
We are getting a TX with captains chairs but without the center console. The reason being was that we can put carseats in both of the second row positions, but still access the third row via the space between the second row seats. That way, we don't have to remove the car seats in order to fold the seats down.
I can't say that I can get emotional about the rumored "demise" of the TX. Truthfully, all car models have a limited shelf life anyway (5 years?). It's just that the new model happens to retain the same name as a old, discontinued model. That gives consumers the mistaken impression that the model lives on somehow just because the name is recycled.
The "new" Explorer is more TX-like than Explorer-like from what I have read. However, because Ford happened to stick an Explorer name on it, somehow people think that it is somehow related to the old Explorer, which it really isn't. So for those mourning the death of the TX, your tears are misguided. Really you should be crying over the death of the old Explorer, since the TX will live on, but with a new name! Sort of like the Freestyle. 
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- #7289 of 7456
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R&T "On the Road" TX Praise
by ronsmith38
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Mar 03, 2008 (5:47 pm)
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http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=25&article_id=6451
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- #7290 of 7456
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Freestyle vs. TaurusX
by coldcranker
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Mar 09, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: ronsmith38 (Mar 03, 2008 5:47 pm)
I noticed a few posts saying the changes for the TaurusX over the Freestyle are all cosmetic. Actually, besides the obvious new engine/tranny, giving more power and less fuel economy in the new TaurusX, they did change the design of the front engine cradle subframe for better noise/vibration (known as "NVH") isolation. Actually, I prefer the old V6 with CVT, since it gives better MPG with no "shift-shock", smoothe as butter. 205 hp in the old engine is adequate. The new engine has 263 hp, but is that extra power worth a drop in MPG by 2 ? That 3.0L V6 in my '05 Freestyle was originally designed by Porsche, and refined slowly from 1994 to 2005 for good durability and low internal friction, and found in Jaguars, Mazdas, Lincolns, Taurus, Escape, Freestyles, 500s in variant forms for many years.
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