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Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, SUV
#7278 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [raezmom3]
Mar 02, 2008 (2:25 am)
No official word at all about the fate of the Taurus X. It's more the absence of word. When you hear all the official talk about the terrific new Taurus sedan design coming, you hear nothing about a new Taurus X design in the works.
Also, the sales numbers are miserable, only around 3000 per month, which is hard to understand for a car with everything going for it. It could just be the "wagon" look doesn't sell to many. It also doesn't help, and a sign, that Ford is not putting any advertising into the Taurus X, neglecting it like an unloved child. There is rumor that the Taurus X will be replaced by the already announced redesigned unibody Explorer coming in a year or two, which indeed looks much like the Taurus X. And the new Flex coming this summer is nearly identical in features and size on the same platform.
I suspect Ford's not making any final decision on the Taurus X until they see how the radical new Flex design pans out, or the new Explorer is available in late 2009. Some people like me are turned off by the Flex's boxy looks. That's indeed why I just bought me a Taurus X Limited a few weeks ago. (BTW, it's a great car!) It could be Ford wants to leave their options open for now, or until they have a clear replacement.
This is all speculation by many. But it's clear the Taurus X isn't selling, not being supported by Ford, and being squeezed out of the fleet by the similar Flex and new Explorer coming over the next months and years.
#7279 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [larryqw]
Mar 02, 2008 (4:48 am)
I am overseas and have not even looked at this vehicle yet. I am going to buy this car by ratings and good reviews alone. I really like the concept of this car and I like that it is different. I live in Japan and their are similar cars like the Taurus X everywhere. I just don't know why Ford is giving up. I noticed that Ford was not advertising this car and started to research why. But it makes sense now!
I have a question for you larryqw. Did you get the 6 pass or the 7 pass? I wanted to order the limited 7 pass with ultimate pkg but Ford no longer will make those. They will only make the 6 pass with ultimate pkg. Do you know why? Is it a safety issue?
#7280 of 7481 Taurus Configuration [raezmom3]
Mar 02, 2008 (11:06 am)
I got the Taurus X with six passenger seating. I was originally thinking of the 7 passenger version when my little girl was still in a baby seat, so I could put her in the middle of the second row and allow five people to get in without going to the third row. But then she just got big enough (at 6 years old) to go to a booster, which is very easy to move around and use any belt.
Oddly, my two youngest girls (6 and 13) love the third row most of all, even though my 13 yo is 5'10" tall. I think it's because of the command seating that puts them up high with a great view. And it's fun like being in the back of the bus..
Accessing the third row is extremely easy with the nicely folding second row seats that make a very wide access to the third row. I can easily kneel in and help the 6yo to buckle her belt with out any strain.
If I had a fixed baby seat in the six passenger version, I'd put it in the second row passenger side so I could see the little critter and hand off stuff while driving. And with the command seating, even that row is higher up for visibility outside. It's still very easy to get in and out of the third row by folding the second row on the driver's side. But if there's traffic, the kids still can go out the passenger side without folding the second row baby seat by just climbing over the second row console and going around. (Kids are like monkeys and the car is big - no problem for them, especially the smaller ones in back.) Actually, after using it, I think the six passenger configuration is very flexible and allows much easier access to everything.
Also, even though I got the FWD, the unused AWD tunnel goes down the center of the vehicle, so the second row console fits nicely and gives cup holders and a nice storage area, especially for DVDs, remote control, and headphones in my car with the FES. (Incidentally, the FES is way more than just a DVD player, its another CD player and a multimedia system for audio as well. You and the kids can be listening to three different things at once.)
The drive tunnel is unfortunate in the FWD, as you still give up space. Also you pay for it in ground clearance. When crawling under the Taurus X to install a 2" hitch for my bikes, I measured the ground clearance. It's 8 or 9 inches most everywhere, except the exhaust system that drops to just around 7 inches, with a lowest point just under the engine (Ford lists it as only 5.1", possible with full load and bouncing maybe.) It annoys me the exhaust is just below an big open hole available for the rear drive train I don't have, yet reducing the clearance.
I don't work for Ford and have no clue why they discontinued the 7 passenger model (or that they did) for the Limited. It could be lack of demand. Unless you really need to sit 7 people, the 6 passenger version is very flexible, has more storage, and a much nicer feel.
If you haven't driven the Taurus X, one surprise for me was the large size. I looked at the pictures and kept imagining something a little bigger than my Sable wagon . Even test driving it at the dealer with the big trucks on the lot didn't prepare me for how big it really was. When I got home and parked it next to my Sable wagon and wife's Freestar minivan, it dwarfs my Sable wagon and makes it's tires look like a toy wagon's. Overall, the Taurus X is the height and length of my wife's minivan, which is surprising from the pictures. It's got quite a bit of room.
#7281 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [raezmom3]
Mar 02, 2008 (3:23 pm)
have a question for you larryqw. Did you get the 6 pass or the 7 pass? I wanted to order the limited 7 pass with ultimate pkg but Ford no longer will make those. They will only make the 6 pass with ultimate pkg. Do you know why? Is it a safety issue?
I know you didn't ask me, but I'll answer your question anyway.
You can get a TX Limited with 7 row seating however. You just can't get it with the ultimate package. As far as I know, Ford NEVER made a 7 passenger version of the Limited TX with the ultimate package.
As you probably know, one of the features included in the ultimate package is heated second row captain's chairs with one-touch folding. So obviously if you couldn't get this feature if you had a second row bench seat, since the bench seat would negate the second row captain's chairs.
What this also means is that you can't also get the power lift gate in the Limited trim if you want 7 passenger seating. That is because the power lift gate only comes with the ultimate package on the Limited trim. The thing that doesn't make sense, though, is that the power lift gate is a standalone option on the SEL and Eddie Bauer trims. So you can get the power lift gate and 7 passenger seating on the lower trims but just not on the Limited trim.
#7282 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [humblecoder]
Mar 02, 2008 (3:36 pm)
I would highly recommend the power lift gate. That is a heavy door to close. I didn't have it in my 05 Freestyle and glad I got it now. Also the power folding 2nd row captains chairs are very handy.
#7283 of 7481 Power Lift Gate [cmuniz]
Mar 02, 2008 (6:08 pm)
I chose not to get the Ultimate package with power seats and lift gate. In dealer tests, I found the springs on the seats and lift gate were well adjusted, and I could lift and close the seats and back gate just fine manually. I figured the power system would be slow and just get in my way. The lift gate also has a power pod and arm that gets a little in the way of storage.
Nevertheless, my smaller kids and wife seem to struggle a little with the seats. It might just be it's new and they need a little more training. Like my wife couldn't figure out she needed to lift the lever a second time to unlatch the seat, and doesn't want to listen to me, the way wives tend to be. As for strength, even my 6 year old can lift the second row seat if she uses two hands. However, the monkey she is, she usually folds down the back and then jumps out over the folded back, which is faster for her. I can open and close everything fine with one hand relatively quickly. On the lift gate, opening is very easy for everyone. On closing, it's just the lower part of the swing that's awkward, where I need either to give the gate some extra swift downward momentum, or reposition my hand outside the lift gate for a final push.
I need another week perhaps to be sure and get everyone trained right. But I still think I don't need any of the power lifts and seats. They'd just get in the way.
#7284 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [humblecoder]
Mar 03, 2008 (8:53 am)
Hey Everyone. I own a Black 2006 Limited AWD (w Navigation and rear entertainment system) with 7 passenger seating and prefer this configuration to the 6 passenger with 2nd row buckets just because it gives me more options. I don't really need 7 passenger seating all the time, but it did come in handy a couple of times so far. And you can sit 3 people in the 2nd row (which I do much more often) without having to utilize the 3rd row. I have to say, it was really disappointing to see how Ford did almost nothing to promote this fine vehicle. Every Ford Ad you see in the local paper promotes every other Ford Vehicle (especially Exploers & Edge), except the Freestyle (Taurus X). It's like it doesn't exist. I've been asked by complete strangers, countless times in parking lots, "what vehicle is that?" Everyone is so suprised how big the interior is and that is has 3 rows. And yes, many peoople think it's a very sharp looking vehicle. I bought my Freestyle in October of 06 with 15K miles for $24K. It was almost new in my eyes and considering the base price of this vehicle with all the options I have was about 36k new, I think I got a bargain. I have not had any problems with this vehicle (I did have the brakes replaced under the extended warranty program). It's not the most powerful vehicle and the gas mialge is not the greatest, but if you don't plan on towing a boat and carrying loads of big objects in the rear, it is the perfect combination of car and SUV. It gives you much better milage than an Explorer and it rides almost like a car. I suspect that Ford never really promoted this vehicle because the profit margins are so much greater on the explorer. When you think about it, the Freestyle has almost the same capacity as an Explorer (except towing), yet the explorer cost so much more. I was reading an review on the new Hyndai VeraCruz in the paper and the reviewer was pointing out all the great feature of this vehicle ($38K with options) and I was saying My Fresstyle Limited has everything this car has. My suggestion for anyone contemplating buying a Freestyle (Taurus X), go ahead and make the purchase. Just stay away from 05's as there were still some kinks that were being worked out in that model year.
#7285 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [richfig23]
Mar 03, 2008 (9:43 am)
my '05 has been 30k problem free miles short of the rear brakes 18k on our black limited fwd bought new. We're still on the original conti's, religious oil changes/scheduled service have been the only real reason to take it in. A couple of fit/finish items when delivered were dealt with as well.
I'd argue buying a used '05 makes for a good deal as well.
#7286 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [freealfas]
Mar 03, 2008 (10:21 am)
My '05 Freestyle SEL has been flawless too. I wouldn't shy away from a clean looking '05 model at all.
#7287 of 7481 Re: Territory has similar styling [richfig23]
Mar 03, 2008 (12:26 pm)
I like the 2nd row bench because from time to time we'll sit three in the back and can have a lot of cargo space. To me the captain chair option is just a waste of the center seat in the 2nd row because you're having to use the 3rd row more often. I do wish that the center position in the bench had a fold down armrest when not in use.