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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [raezmom3] by larryqw
Feb 22, 2008 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: raezmom3 (Feb 22, 2008 4:51 am)

I just picked up my Taurus X Limited FWD two weeks ago. I'm going to give it another couple weeks and write a long review. But in sum, I absolutely love the car for my family of 5 with tall teens and my active mountain biking life.
 
The Taurus X has got superb reviews from many magazines, and recommended buy from Consumer Reports for safety, handling, and value. More importantly, even Car and Driver gave it a thumbs up! The Taurus X is a very nice car with great price because of it's secret status among consumers. Some of this is due to Ford's complete lack of advertisement, as they neglect the car like an unloved child. But why no love?
 
Here's the problem. Many car buyers want to secretly believe they're really James Bond or a Le Mans racer or a outdoors woodsman saving lost people with their comfy SUV, or something else instead of really just parents needing a practical car. Myself, I've grown past all that. For me, the spy gigs never happened, it's silly to attempt racing in the standard commuter traffic, and I get my outdoors man kicks instead from mountain biking 40 miles deep into the wilderness over logs and through muddy streams. Most people don't really need or use the excessive cars that they actually buy instead for self image.We all laugh at the Hummer or Porsche going to the convenience store for a soda (insert small dick jokes here). It's a total waste of money and makes for a poor fit to what one really needs. But the car companies make money and they encourage the self-delusion.
 
In contrast, very useful cars like wagons and minivans have developed a family-oriented neutered sort of image. This stigma and people's self-delusions is probably why the Taurus X isn't selling well - it's just coming too close to the wagon/minivan styling and practicality. Ford is hoping to provide the same practicality without the stigma with the wacky box-shaped Flex, which can at least tie into the "fun" Scion or a maxi-mini-Cooper image while keeping the minivan/wagon function.
 
The Taurus X is indeed a superb car with versatility, and utility. I can use the car in many different configurations from trip to trip. The car is more for people needing three row seats and/or more room, such as families. The car drives very well - I feel very stable on the road with excellent acceleration and braking. The leg room in all three seats is the best of all 3-row crossovers I've tried, important with my tall family. The new SYNC system makes the car very nice to use, especially with the hands free phone and music selection. I also have Navigation and DVD Family Entertainment system which are delightful. My kids love the car and can't wait to get in to ride somewhere.
 
So the bottom line is that the car probably isn't selling well for reasons above, and Ford must go by the numbers - they're in a business. And they have other vehicles (Flex, car-like-unibody Explorer) coming that will fill the 3-row family CUV just fine with less stigma. So take advantage of the Taurus X deals. There's nothing wrong with the T-X. It's a fabulous car for super price.
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [larryqw] by freealfas
Feb 22, 2008 (1:14 pm)
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Replying to: larryqw (Feb 22, 2008 12:49 pm)

I agreed with that when they called it freestyle in '05... enjoy
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [larryqw] by coolmazda5
Feb 22, 2008 (1:36 pm)
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Replying to: larryqw (Feb 22, 2008 12:49 pm)

Well, that is why I posted earlier here. I don't own a Freestyle/Taurus X but I own 2 Mazda5s (yes, they sell so few I needed to get 2 )...
 
But now, with both cars (Freestyle and Mazda5), although different, I finally started to see automakers in NA (not in Europe or Australasia, these type of cars are popular there) moving away from the typical and humongous minivans and SUVs to target the family markets.
 
Now some sources say that the Taurus X will be replaced by the EDGE and/or the Boxy FLEX. It is like saying the the Mazda6 wagon or the Mazda MPV are going to be replaced by the CX-7 or CX-9 (gas guzzlers, not too much useful space, fancy but pure and tall SUVs)
 
Oh well, as said earlier, Freestyles are very popular in my area and I don't like that Ford move.
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Re: Is the Taurus X dying? [coolmazda5] by coolmazda5
Feb 22, 2008 (10:48 am)
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Replying to: coolmazda5 (Feb 22, 2008 1:36 pm)

When I mentioned Australasia, this is what comes to mind. I like the front grille and headlights and the fact that it is more like a wagon (I would just don't like it that tall).
 
Does the car look familiar?
 
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Territory has similar styling by mschmal
Mar 01, 2008 (7:09 am)
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but it is based on a Rear Drive platform.
 
The Taurus X is being discountinued because the Flex is a far more advanced vehicle.
 
Taurus X/Freestyle a first attempt at a station wagon that didn't look so much like a station wagon.
 
Originally the Flex was suppose to be built on the Fusion platform and have sliding doors like a mini van.
 
Mark
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Re: Territory has similar styling [mschmal] by humblecoder
Mar 01, 2008 (3:10 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Mar 01, 2008 7:09 am)

The Taurus X is being discountinued because the Flex is a far more advanced vehicle.
 
Care to explain? Looks like the Flex is going to use the same platform, same engine, and same transmission as the TX, so how is it "far more advanced"?
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Re: Territory has similar styling [humblecoder] by bobw3
Mar 01, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Mar 01, 2008 3:10 pm)

It has 4" more 2nd row legroom.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [mschmal] by raezmom3
Mar 01, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Mar 01, 2008 7:09 am)

I had a question about the discontinuation of the Taurus X. Where can I find that info and is it reliable? I have asked Ford and Ford dealers about this and they both denied it.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [raezmom3] by passat_2002
Mar 01, 2008 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: raezmom3 (Mar 01, 2008 7:47 pm)

It is rumored that the X will be discontinued after the 2009 model year. But it is rumor only. It doesn't change the fact that it's a very fine vehicle. It's just that the Flex will likely take it's place in the Ford lineup after 2009.
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Re: Territory has similar styling [raezmom3] by larryqw
Mar 02, 2008 (1:25 am)
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Replying to: raezmom3 (Mar 01, 2008 7:47 pm)

No official word at all about the fate of the Taurus X. It's more the absence of word. When you hear all the official talk about the terrific new Taurus sedan design coming, you hear nothing about a new Taurus X design in the works.
 
Also, the sales numbers are miserable, only around 3000 per month, which is hard to understand for a car with everything going for it. It could just be the "wagon" look doesn't sell to many. It also doesn't help, and a sign, that Ford is not putting any advertising into the Taurus X, neglecting it like an unloved child. There is rumor that the Taurus X will be replaced by the already announced redesigned unibody Explorer coming in a year or two, which indeed looks much like the Taurus X. And the new Flex coming this summer is nearly identical in features and size on the same platform.
 
 I suspect Ford's not making any final decision on the Taurus X until they see how the radical new Flex design pans out, or the new Explorer is available in late 2009. Some people like me are turned off by the Flex's boxy looks. That's indeed why I just bought me a Taurus X Limited a few weeks ago. (BTW, it's a great car!) It could be Ford wants to leave their options open for now, or until they have a clear replacement.
 
This is all speculation by many. But it's clear the Taurus X isn't selling, not being supported by Ford, and being squeezed out of the fleet by the similar Flex and new Explorer coming over the next months and years.

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