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My TX Test Drive by humblecoder
Dec 08, 2007 (4:30 pm)
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We finally got to test drive the TX this morning. We made an appointment at a low-volume "town" dealership (as opposed to the highway dealership), and when we arrived we were handed the keys and told to have fun! I really appreciated being able to test drive the vehicle in a relaxed fashion like this.
 
This was the EB edition, which I had never seen before, and it was very nice. While the interior doesn't compare to, say, a Lexus, it was very nice for a $30,000 vehicle. The wood-colored trim, the retro speedometer, and the two tone leather gave it some style. The seats were comfy, especially since they were uber adjustable. My only complaint about the interior was that the center stack was very busy with all sorts of controls and buttons and the like.
 
One thing we liked was the fact that with the captains chairs and no center console, there was plenty of room to access the third row. This is important since we have two kids in car seats and a mother-in-law living with us.
 
While driving, the engine shifted in a very smooth and refined manner. Even though this is a bigger vehicle than I am used to driving, it felt very secure without a lot of body lean and slippage. Accelerating onto the highway was adequate, although compared to my current small sedan, it was sluggish. However, that is not a fair comparison. There wasn't a lot of road noise in the cabin. Visibility was amazing from the driver seat. I have driven other SUV's and minivans where you had to cross your fingers when changing lanes, but the TX had great sitelines when you looked in all directions. My only complaint about the suspension was a little lacking when going over bumps.
 
Other impressions:
 
- The heated seats are great. My wife was having some back pain this week, and she said that she found the heated seats to be very nice!
 
- The trip computer is pretty cool. I never had a vehicle that had one, so I had fun playing around with it on the test drive.
 
- The alloy metallic color (the color of our test vehicle) is a lot nicer in person than in the brochure. It looks the same as black in the pictures, but it is a stately dark gray in person.
 
- Low volume dealerships are the way to go! This one treated us with a lot more respect than the highway dealer.
 
In summary, my wife and I liked it so much that we ended up factory ordering one!
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Re: My TX Test Drive [humblecoder] by passat_2002
Dec 08, 2007 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Dec 08, 2007 4:30 pm)

I'm just curious h-coder.. what disqualified the one you test drove and liked so much?
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Re: My TX Test Drive [passat_2002] by humblecoder
Dec 09, 2007 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Dec 08, 2007 9:20 pm)

The reason we factory ordered is because we didn't like the way that the vehicle was optioned. There were about $2900 worth of options on the vehicle that we didn't want (DVD, moonroof, chrome wheels, Sirius). The salesman did a search for vehicles that met our specs, but he came up empty.
 
The only risk of a factory order is that you don't know what rebates will be in effect when the vehicle arrives. My gut feeling is that they will be the same or higher, given the way the economy is shaping up, plus the fact that the TX seems to be a slow seller. However, even if the rebate goes away, we'd still be ahead of the game by about $1400. Right now the rebate is $1500 in our region.
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Trading With Other Dealers by jpzenger1
Dec 09, 2007 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Dec 09, 2007 8:40 am)

Two of the Ford dealers that I worked with volunteered to trade with another dealer to get the vehicle I wanted. All of the Xs near my home had way too many options for my taste. They each found one and gave me a price about $500 over invoice (before rebates) to go get it. They said they can have it in 2 days.
 
One salesman explained to me that dealers prefer not to trade because they do not get the 3% holdback from Ford. Instead, the dealer that traded the car gets to keep the holdback. They actually buy the car at invoice price from the other dealer and then have to pay someone to drive it back. If a dealer sells a vehicle from their lot, they save the cost of getting the vehicle and get the 3% from Ford.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [jpzenger1] by humblecoder
Dec 10, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: jpzenger1 (Dec 09, 2007 2:41 pm)

One salesman explained to me that dealers prefer not to trade because they do not get the 3% holdback from Ford. Instead, the dealer that traded the car gets to keep the holdback. They actually buy the car at invoice price from the other dealer and then have to pay someone to drive it back. If a dealer sells a vehicle from their lot, they save the cost of getting the vehicle and get the 3% from Ford.
 
If it is a true dealer "trade", that implies that dealer A is sending a comparable vehicle to dealer B. So dealer A won't get the holdback on the vehicle that they are receiving from dealer B, but they WILL get the holdback on the vehicle that they send to dealer B, once it is sold.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [jpzenger1] by humblecoder
Dec 10, 2007 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: jpzenger1 (Dec 09, 2007 2:41 pm)

BTW, which TX are you looking to get?
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [humblecoder] by thegraduate
Dec 12, 2007 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Dec 10, 2007 5:20 pm)

I'd be curious to know as well. My great aunt is interested in both the TX and the Edge.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [thegraduate] by baggs32
Dec 14, 2007 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 12, 2007 11:21 am)

I'd be curious to know as well. My great aunt is interested in both the TX and the Edge.
 
Just out of curiosity, why is that grad? Pricing aside, the TX and Edge are two pretty darn different vehicles.
 
Now for my $.02. I don't know anyone with a FS or TX but my brother-in-law rented one (FS) on vacation in FL and said it was fantastic. He drives a Durango FWIW. Friends of ours have an Edge SEL and love it too. I've been following along in most TX and Edge forums all over the place as we too are interested in them and their opinions of each seem to reflect the vast majority of others opinions so your Aunt seems to be looking at a couple of great choices.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [baggs32] by cmuniz
Dec 15, 2007 (5:53 am)
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Replying to: baggs32 (Dec 14, 2007 5:40 pm)

I owned an 05 FS and now owned an 08 TX. Before I bought the TX, I looked very closely at the Edge and the Mazda CX9. All 3 are very nice vehicles. The CX9 was too expensive with the options I wanted and there were a couple of things I liked better about the TX. As for the Edge, I just felt more comfortable driving the TX - maybe because I had driven the FS for several years and liked it. Also the TX offered more versatility with the third row seating. Bsasically I would choose the Edge if I wanted style and the TX if I wanted versatility.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [cmuniz] by flufflebug
Dec 15, 2007 (5:08 pm)
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Replying to: cmuniz (Dec 15, 2007 5:53 am)

I had an 05 FS as well and now have an 08 TX too. We considered the Edge and liked it very much. However, it just seemed liked we got more for the same money with the TX. There's just so much more space behind the 2nd row in the TX as compared to the Edge. The Edge does seem more SUV-like since it sits higher. We looked at the CX9 although never test drove one. It seemed huge compared to the TX and was more $$. We didn't look at other brands because we were wanting to stay within the Ford family since we get the Z plan discount.

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