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Re: cvts, freestyles and adjustment to Something Else [dcwestby] by saabturboid
Dec 05, 2007 (8:33 am)
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Replying to: dcwestby (Dec 04, 2007 9:02 pm)

I don't mean to rain on your parade but Subaru Foresters with their AWD and boxer engines are not the most efficient small vehicles out there. I doubt you'll see much difference between your FWD Freestyle and Forester when it comes to real world fuel economy.
 
Regarding the gas gauge behavior, mine does that too and it is annoying but you just have to tell yourself it is a gauge issue and your car isn't really burning MORE gas during the first 50 miles. I have had the opposite problem on other cars where for the first half of the gauge it would hardly move making you think you are getting great mileage, but then when it hits half way it drops like a rock. Either way it is just odd gauge behavior and not actual variance in fuel consumption.
 
- Chad
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Re: cvts, freestyles and adjustment to Something Else [dcwestby] by stevedebi
Dec 05, 2007 (8:44 am)
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Replying to: dcwestby (Dec 04, 2007 9:02 pm)

"Other then that, only downsides were [it was an SE], no changer/mp3 player, no fuel estimation trip computer, no awd or sunroof. "
 
I would never buy the SE; the SEL has so many more features, including a trip computer. I only wish now that I had bought the Limited, just for the movable pedals (my wife is short and I am tall).
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Re: cvts, freestyles and adjustment to Something Else [stevedebi] by bobw3
Dec 05, 2007 (1:39 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Dec 05, 2007 8:44 am)

Actually, I bought the SE because the extra cost wasn't worth it to me just for the trip computer and leather steering wheel.
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Re: cvts, freestyles and adjustment to Something Else [dcwestby] by freealfas
Dec 05, 2007 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: dcwestby (Dec 04, 2007 9:02 pm)

"There were times I nearly rearended someone due to the cars weight"
 
It's not like the driver had anything to do with those "nearly rear ended someone" moments. It had to be the fault of Ford's engineers and designer's without a doubt...
 
Please... last I knew cars aren't out driving themselves. Maybe if you were keeping a safe distance you might have avoided the "nearly rear ended moments" you blame on the vehicle.
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Re: cvts, freestyles and adjustment to Something Else [bobw3] by stevedebi
Dec 05, 2007 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 05, 2007 1:39 pm)

"Actually, I bought the SE because the extra cost wasn't worth it to me just for the trip computer and leather steering wheel."
 
Well, mine was also well equipped, and the dealer didn't tend to offer a lot of options on the SE. Mine has no DVD player or Sunroof, but it has the curtain airbags, reverse sensing system, rear aux, and 7 passenger seating. Plus I think the CD player is better in the SEL? Also, I'm not sure if the SE has the automatic headlights or the fog lights?
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My TX Test Drive by humblecoder
Dec 08, 2007 (4:30 pm)
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We finally got to test drive the TX this morning. We made an appointment at a low-volume "town" dealership (as opposed to the highway dealership), and when we arrived we were handed the keys and told to have fun! I really appreciated being able to test drive the vehicle in a relaxed fashion like this.
 
This was the EB edition, which I had never seen before, and it was very nice. While the interior doesn't compare to, say, a Lexus, it was very nice for a $30,000 vehicle. The wood-colored trim, the retro speedometer, and the two tone leather gave it some style. The seats were comfy, especially since they were uber adjustable. My only complaint about the interior was that the center stack was very busy with all sorts of controls and buttons and the like.
 
One thing we liked was the fact that with the captains chairs and no center console, there was plenty of room to access the third row. This is important since we have two kids in car seats and a mother-in-law living with us.
 
While driving, the engine shifted in a very smooth and refined manner. Even though this is a bigger vehicle than I am used to driving, it felt very secure without a lot of body lean and slippage. Accelerating onto the highway was adequate, although compared to my current small sedan, it was sluggish. However, that is not a fair comparison. There wasn't a lot of road noise in the cabin. Visibility was amazing from the driver seat. I have driven other SUV's and minivans where you had to cross your fingers when changing lanes, but the TX had great sitelines when you looked in all directions. My only complaint about the suspension was a little lacking when going over bumps.
 
Other impressions:
 
- The heated seats are great. My wife was having some back pain this week, and she said that she found the heated seats to be very nice!
 
- The trip computer is pretty cool. I never had a vehicle that had one, so I had fun playing around with it on the test drive.
 
- The alloy metallic color (the color of our test vehicle) is a lot nicer in person than in the brochure. It looks the same as black in the pictures, but it is a stately dark gray in person.
 
- Low volume dealerships are the way to go! This one treated us with a lot more respect than the highway dealer.
 
In summary, my wife and I liked it so much that we ended up factory ordering one!
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Re: My TX Test Drive [humblecoder] by passat_2002
Dec 08, 2007 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Dec 08, 2007 4:30 pm)

I'm just curious h-coder.. what disqualified the one you test drove and liked so much?
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Re: My TX Test Drive [passat_2002] by humblecoder
Dec 09, 2007 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Dec 08, 2007 9:20 pm)

The reason we factory ordered is because we didn't like the way that the vehicle was optioned. There were about $2900 worth of options on the vehicle that we didn't want (DVD, moonroof, chrome wheels, Sirius). The salesman did a search for vehicles that met our specs, but he came up empty.
 
The only risk of a factory order is that you don't know what rebates will be in effect when the vehicle arrives. My gut feeling is that they will be the same or higher, given the way the economy is shaping up, plus the fact that the TX seems to be a slow seller. However, even if the rebate goes away, we'd still be ahead of the game by about $1400. Right now the rebate is $1500 in our region.
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Trading With Other Dealers by jpzenger1
Dec 09, 2007 (2:41 pm)
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Replying to: humblecoder (Dec 09, 2007 8:40 am)

Two of the Ford dealers that I worked with volunteered to trade with another dealer to get the vehicle I wanted. All of the Xs near my home had way too many options for my taste. They each found one and gave me a price about $500 over invoice (before rebates) to go get it. They said they can have it in 2 days.
 
One salesman explained to me that dealers prefer not to trade because they do not get the 3% holdback from Ford. Instead, the dealer that traded the car gets to keep the holdback. They actually buy the car at invoice price from the other dealer and then have to pay someone to drive it back. If a dealer sells a vehicle from their lot, they save the cost of getting the vehicle and get the 3% from Ford.
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Re: Trading With Other Dealers [jpzenger1] by humblecoder
Dec 10, 2007 (5:12 pm)
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Replying to: jpzenger1 (Dec 09, 2007 2:41 pm)

One salesman explained to me that dealers prefer not to trade because they do not get the 3% holdback from Ford. Instead, the dealer that traded the car gets to keep the holdback. They actually buy the car at invoice price from the other dealer and then have to pay someone to drive it back. If a dealer sells a vehicle from their lot, they save the cost of getting the vehicle and get the 3% from Ford.
 
If it is a true dealer "trade", that implies that dealer A is sending a comparable vehicle to dealer B. So dealer A won't get the holdback on the vehicle that they are receiving from dealer B, but they WILL get the holdback on the vehicle that they send to dealer B, once it is sold.

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