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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [northlakes] by barnstormer64
Aug 12, 2007 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: northlakes (Aug 11, 2007 8:54 pm)

I heard it was Nissan who was using all those unreliable CVT's.
 
To me, the CVT seems far simpler than a traditional automatic transmission. So it would seem to me that it would proven even MORE reliable.
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [northlakes] by tim156
Aug 12, 2007 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: northlakes (Aug 11, 2007 8:54 pm)

Hey northlakes, good to see your still out there and staying above the fray of Freestyle bashing. I still love mine and everything about it, especially the CVT. I used my Yakima cross bars for the first time today to carry a new exterior door home. The clamps for the roof rails worked like a charm. The storm door fit inside the car with the seats down. This is such a great car!!
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [passat_2002] by prairiedog
Aug 13, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Aug 11, 2007 1:04 pm)

Yup, Michelangelo's time alright, 1490, but the artist/engineer/renaissance man was Leonardo da Vinci Gotta keep these artists straight!
 I think the CVT was a BOLD MOVE! Too bad they bailed on it. I love it! I hope they bring it back.
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [barnstormer64] by prairiedog
Aug 13, 2007 (8:16 am)
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Replying to: barnstormer64 (Aug 09, 2007 5:57 pm)

ford didn't educate it's dealers about how to sell this thing yet alone it customer's and its advantages
  
Actually, my local dealer here DID encourage me to FLOOR the accelerator when I was driving it, to see what it could do.

Reminder to self: don't buy any from there that have any miles on them.
 
 My salesman actually demonstrated the unique quality of the CVT by throwing it into REVERSE at about 15 mph to show how it would just slow down all by itself, and then "change directions." Maybe so, but my brain couldn't handle it and I wouldn't buy anything off his lot! I wonder how many people he ran off with that demo?
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [prairiedog] by passat_2002
Aug 13, 2007 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: prairiedog (Aug 13, 2007 7:51 am)

Yes, of course.. it was da Vinci. Thanks for catching that. Please excuse me now. I must go and re-boot my brain.
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Floor it with CVT. by mschmal
Aug 14, 2007 (7:40 am)
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The Floor It technique is actually documented by Ford.
 
There is a detent button under the throttle that is only compressed when the pedal is floored.
 
The purpose of the button is to tell the CVT to drop to the ratio that will give maximum power for acceleration.
 
Remember there is no direct cable connection from the pedal to the throttle. Its all electronic.
 
You need to think of the gas pedal as if it was a dimmer on an electric light. When you want full power you floor it. It is suppose to work that way.
 
Welcome to the 21st century.
 
Mark.
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Re: Floor it with CVT. [mschmal] by hypnosis44
Aug 15, 2007 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Aug 14, 2007 7:40 am)

I have not driven one yet, but am considering one used. The description of the CVT reminds me of the Buick Dynaflow of the 50/s/60's - if you floored it it would drop into its low range and take your head off. Also the Ford Overdrives of the 50's and later - had a button under the gas pedal - full throttle would kick it out of OD and into third direct.
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [mschmal] by stevedebi
Aug 16, 2007 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: mschmal (Aug 10, 2007 3:48 am)

"All "FULL HYBRIDS" on the market right now use a CVT. The same one actually from Aisen."
 
Well, I didn't realize that Ford also used that transmission...
 
I would also like to point out that you could buy a Ford Focus for about the same (or larger) $10000 than a Prius. I'm not sure what you have been reading for prices, but the Civic Hybrid can be had for around 20K.
 
When comparing the two types of hybrids, it is also good to note that the Civic Hybrid can operate without the electric drive; the HSD type systems cannot work without the electric components...
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [stevedebi] by freealfas
Aug 16, 2007 (12:13 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 16, 2007 11:49 am)

ford's freestyle cvt is not the aisin unit. it's a zf design out of germany that has parts imported to the batavia, ohio plant where it's built with both local and imported content. that is of course if they were still building it...
 
the escape hybrid uses the aisin unit but the FS does not...
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Re: AMAZING... JUST LIKE FORD TO SCREW UP A GOOD THING [stevedebi] by jigmaster
Aug 16, 2007 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Aug 16, 2007 11:49 am)

Hi folks, after thinking and comparing all crossovers on the market I was ready to buy Freestyle ( best fuel economy and I was not to concerned about engine power ). Hoped for the good deal for remaining 2007 models but the only available was dune pearl color with leather seating ( my wife hates it) plus price was more than new Taurus X with cloth seats. Test drove both vehicles and liked Taurus X more - nicer exterior,looked more quiet and of course more powerful. So baring in mind that money which I will most likely save on fuel I will most likely lose in resale value I opted for Taurus X. Of course possibility to chose color, DVD and all other options according to our family needs was pretty significant in our decision as well.
  Hope I made a right choice. Will post my impressions after first week of driving.

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