Ford Freestyle - Taurus X

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What is this discussion about? Ford Freestyle, Ford Taurus X, SUV

#6780 of 7481 Re: New Taurus Variants [coldcranker] by stevedebi

Feb 12, 2007 (4:56 pm)

Replying to: coldcranker (Feb 11, 2007 10:03 pm)
No, probably means you don't know but think this might be true.
 
I was basing my Edge weights on the review posed on "another site". It was a loaded AWD. The comparison value was a loaded FS AWD. The difference was 400 lbs.
 
RE: More gears, I wasn't directly referring to the CVT vs 6 speed (I was thinking of other upgrades from 4 or 5 to 6 speeds), although technically the 6 speed does have more gears, since the CVT has only the one gear, while the new one has six. But that is moot, since the CVT is continuously variable. That part of the post was not clearly worded. FWIW, I like the CVT and will be sorry to see it go.
 
The point is that if the smaller 3.0 / CVT has to work harder than the 3.5 / 6 speed at a similar speed, the 3.5 / 6 speed may very well get better mileage, due to lower RPMs. As I recall, the Ford 500 got similar (or better) MPG with the 3.5 / 6 Speed than with the CVT.
 
I stand by my statement, the 2008 FS will probably (sorry, couldn't resist) have comparable MPG to the 2007.

#6781 of 7481 Re: Taurus X [tidester] by barnstormer64

Feb 12, 2007 (8:20 pm)

Replying to: tidester (Feb 11, 2007 8:48 pm)
I am just a little amused by barnstormer's contention that it seems a "bit ridiculous" for anyone to consider the name of a vehicle "to pick or avoid" one. (I happen to agree with him, btw!)
 
Now I'm confused . . you're amused by my comment, yet you agree with it?

#6782 of 7481 Re: Taurus X [xnappo] by barnstormer64

Feb 12, 2007 (8:22 pm)

Replying to: xnappo (Feb 12, 2007 8:29 am)
So you would be fine buying a Pinto if you liked the car otherwise?
 
No problem here . . as long as the car was what I wanted.
 
However, I do think that you might have a hard time getting people to even TRY a car named the Pinto.
 
But once a person's tried it, if they like it, they shouldn't care about the name.

#6783 of 7481 Re: Taurus X [barnstormer64] by tidester

Feb 12, 2007 (10:05 pm)

Replying to: barnstormer64 (Feb 12, 2007 8:20 pm)
you're amused by my comment, yet you agree with it?
 
Yes, my amusement was in conjunction with the part you left out of the quote that explained it: What I find humorous is that Ford appears to be banking on it.
 
On the one hand it seems rather silly that the name of a vehicle would be a primary deciding factor in making a purchase yet that is exactly what Ford appears to be counting on by making the name changes.
 
Hope that helps.
 
tidester, host

#6784 of 7481 Re: New Taurus Variants [stevedebi] by bruneau1

Feb 13, 2007 (9:29 am)

Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 12, 2007 4:56 pm)
Ford expects to maintain the mileage of the current Freestyle in the Taurus X. Who cares what it's called. It will be a significantly improved vehicle. They will use electric power steering in the Taurus X to improve mileage. Let's hope the steering feel doesn't go bad. I am glad they will get rid of the monochromatic interior.

#6785 of 7481 Re: New Taurus Variants [stevedebi] by sportman

Feb 13, 2007 (11:39 am)

Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 12, 2007 4:56 pm)
Hey guys,
There is some truth to the concept of a higher powered and/or displacement getting better mileage. Usually the larger engine is pulling a taller gear (lower numerical number) so the RPM is lower. In the case of the Freestyle CVT and AWD, the final ratio is 5.41 which is a stump puller but the CVT can get to "overdrive ratios" that allow this. A conventional trans would have the engine screaming at 70 MPH. The TaurusX will most likely not have a final gear this low so the mileage may improve or stay about the same.
 
It is interesting to note that the AWD system is going to be the same as Edge which is much less complex ($$$$) as the AWD in the Freestyle. In other words it looks like less content in the Taurus X.

#6786 of 7481 Re: New Taurus Variants [sportman] by passat_2002

Feb 13, 2007 (1:47 pm)

Replying to: sportman (Feb 13, 2007 11:39 am)
"In other words it looks like less content in the Taurus X."
 
Yeah.. less content. Like an all-new 3.5L engine with 60 more horsepower and a lot more torque, new 6-spd. transmission, power liftgate, one-touch folding 2nd row seats, Bluetooth/Sync, std. Anti-Lock brakes and Electronic Stability control, and a simplified AWD system that can deliver up to 100% thrust to either axle. Yep.. less content all-right.

#6787 of 7481 Freestyle vs Volvo XC90 by tango_28

Feb 13, 2007 (3:31 pm)

Seems like the Ford is reliable than the Volvo, I was just on the Volvo XC90 forums. We are real close in in buying 07 Freestyle in the next few weeks. The one questions that bothers me is should I wait for the 08s? I like reliability of the 3.0 Duratec motor and seems to be bulletproof.

#6788 of 7481 Re: Freestyle vs Volvo XC90 [tango_28] by freealfas

Feb 13, 2007 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: tango_28 (Feb 13, 2007 3:31 pm)
Buy the '07... you won't be disappointed. As far as I'm concerned Ford should stick to making trucks at this point...

#6789 of 7481 Re: Taurus X [tidester] by barnstormer64

Feb 13, 2007 (8:58 pm)

Replying to: tidester (Feb 12, 2007 10:05 pm)
On the one hand it seems rather silly that the name of a vehicle would be a primary deciding factor in making a purchase yet that is exactly what Ford appears to be counting on by making the name changes.
 
Well, I would predict that the Taurus name is more likely to get people to actually TRY the car . . or even know that it exists. And that's half the battle.
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