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14399 messages, Last post on Dec 03, 2009 at 7:51 PM
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Inch forward, stop, inch forward, stop... by the time the light turns green they're almost all the way into the intersection. I think to myself, at that point you might as well just run the sumb tch.
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| who break the law and endanger others by excessive speeding while expecting the left lane campers driving at the speed limit to get out of their way. The LLC may be violating the rules, but the Speed Freak is no doubt breaking the law. The SF claims the LLC is enforcing and limiting the SF's speeding. SF are ticketed much more than LLC. And the SF has the chutzpah to claim the LLC is discourteous. | |
| No, the LLCs are "no doubt breaking the law" as well. | |
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IF I breeze by you at 85 in the left lane while you are doing 65 in the right, I dont bother you, you don't bother me, and I pass by you with no drama whatsoever. LEt me go by and continue until some state trooper wants to put me in my place. That way you don't get stressed, I don't get stressed, and we both continue to be happy. IF you decide to move left and sit in the left lane just because you can even if you're not really passing, you cause traffic to back up behind you as people who actually use the left lane for passsing like they're supposed to end up having to conform to the whims of a retired insurance agent who probably has nowhere important to be most of the time. Dont worry about what speeders do! Speed itself is not inherently dangerous on clear roads with good visibility. IF I pass you, the very existence of a speed differential between us does not somehow jeopardize your life. I can just picture you shaking your fist at all those young whipper snappers cause after all, nobody should be going faster than you! Speeding too quickly for traffic or road conditions is a whole different story. OTherwise, the only time speeders become a danger or an irritant is when some jerk decides he wants to cruise at 5 below the limit in the left lane because it's the easiest way to continue his cell phone conversation without having to change lanes. Then some people get frustrated into trying all sorts of tricky maneuvers to get around these little globules of road fat. The left lane is for passing, the right lane is for cruising. IF you are keeping pace with cars to the right or getting passed on the right you're in the wrong lane, and you have become more dangerous than a speeder because inevitably some speeders that would have passed right on by harmlessly are now pent up behind you getting more frustrated by the minute. How's about this... everybody drive to the best of their ability without worrying about what other drivers are doing so long as it does not interfere with you. Everyone do their best to avoid disrupting the driving pattern around them unnecessarily. Also, a question kinley, which is one I ask anyone who advocates left lane blocking because I tend to find that Left LAne campers can never take their own medecine. What if you were doing 65 on the dot in the left lane then someone else decided they wanted to be in front of you doing 55, forcing you to slow by 10 mph? What if you were trapped in the left lane behind this person because all the lemmings on the road nowadays love to sit in someone's blind spot or right next to another car and cruise all day long? You wouldn't care since theyre obeying the limit right? |
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I agree with you, too. I was doing 80 mph in the left lane on Friday when an SUV came up fast behind me. He was probably doing 100mph. You can bet I moved to the right lane as soon as I could and got out of his way so he could go by. Incidently, 80 mph is a typical speed on expressways I75, I275, I94, I96 etc. around Detroit. The other day some woman in a Chevy Malibu tailgated me at 80 mph. She had about 3 kids in the car. Judging from their seating positions and the way they were moving around, they did not have seat belts on. All in all, pretty inconsiderate of her kids' safety. |
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What irritates me most is the reverse of the left-lane camper: people who drive 80 in the right lane and insist on riding 6" from my rear bumper instead of passing. I generally ride the right lane and hold around 60 mph because I may need to stop and grab a hubcap at any moment  But I often get stuck in front of these people who are going way too fast for the lane. I shouldn't have to merge left to allow an idiot to pass me on the right. -Andrew L |
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| about the LLC who is going as fast as the law allows? Neither the SF or the LLC is more correct than the other. Most folk around these parts are LLC because the other lanes have been beat up by the overloaded trucks going between Mexico and Canada. It is more necessary to be in the left lane than to speed above the limit. It appears the SF doesn't want to conform to the limit of speed for he can not honestly justify it so he whines about the LLC. | |
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I think that we have had this conversation a million times. We've also posted about how this is illegal in virtually every state. I suppose its OK to pick and choose which laws one wishes to obey? Even if, in fantasyland, everyone was going the exact speed limit, LLCs are still breaking the law. Furthermore, they are still disrupting the flow of traffic. I see it all the time. A grossly inconsiderate driver enters the passing lane at, say, the speed limit. Which in and of itself is arbitraty. (Example: In Pennsylvania, driving in the passing lane is illegal, a 4-point ticket. Driving within 10% of the speed limit is not even considered probable cause to cite someone for speeding. Up to 19mph over the limit is a 2-point ticket, this shows that 84mph on the PA turnpike is less illegal than being an LLC. Also, some other states, such as Washington, place a higher fine on LLCing than exceeding the speed limit by less than 20mph). That being said, what happens is a backup occurs. However, some people think that rolling traffic jams are safe. Most objective, reasonable and intelligent people realize that a smooth flow of traffic is safer than a rolling traffic jam, and also realize that it is the job of the State Police to enfor the laws. By the time you get 10+ cars back, traffic is NOT flowing at the limit, but at a speed well below. So now the approaching traffic from the rear has an even high speed differential than was there in the first place. Ergo, driving like an inconsiderate fool is also unsafe. Bill |
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| "Kinley" you need to take a pill. If you so obviously consider "speed freaks" to be dangerous and inconsiderate, then why would you want to punish them by keeping them behind you? They can kill you from behind. If you are watching their taillights vanishing down the road, you are safe and on your merry way. This is such an amazingly complex concept. How do you feel being behind someone taking thief sweet time at the grocery store or at the bank when you are in a hurry? Do you want those same emotions at 65 mph in a 3000 Lb. plus weapon 6" from your back bumper? Wake up! | |
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