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#21944 of 22403 Re: . [fintail]
Jul 11, 2013 (11:39 am)
To be fair, I think the judge was from a neighboring town and was ticketed. At least he didn't do like other judges and ask for the ticket to be forgotten and illegally disposed of.
Jul 11, 2013 (4:37 pm)
It's not a matter of attention in many cases, I don't think--many drivers are simply not competent enough to drive a car at high speed---bluntly, they don't know their ashtray from their elbow. Certainly we see abundant evidence of this in SUV single-car rollovers. (swerve at high speed and....FLIPPO!)
Other errors include incorrect time/distance/speed calculation, braking in a high speed turn, hydro-planing, mechanical failures.
#21946 of 22403 Re: . [MrShift@Edmunds]
Jul 11, 2013 (5:37 pm)
But why do they swerve? A panic reaction due to inattention.
For the SUVs, the laws of physics + iffy engineering can be at play, too.
I'd still like to see mass or size based license endorsements.
Jul 11, 2013 (5:40 pm)
Two dummies stick in my head today. First, middle aged guy in a Sienna, driving it like it's a sportscar - flooring it, abrupt lane changes, etc. Frustrations of driving the mommymobile when a Porsche or motorcycle passes by, maybe. He also dumped a drink out his window at a stoplight. Stay classy. Second one was aging yuppie in a late model 750Li xDrive, going 10-15 over the flow of traffic, weaving around (at least one lane change per minute) and NEVER signaled. I can deal with some speeding, but no signal is the pinnacle of roundel douchiness. I wonder what a real "deterrent" fine would be.
Jul 11, 2013 (7:28 pm)
They swerve because they have no training..it's what a rookie does, same as swinging at bad pitches. They over-correct, over-react.
i think it's more than inattention, I really do.
#21949 of 22403 Re: . [MrShift@Edmunds]
Jul 12, 2013 (8:13 am)
Definitely a combination of things. Mainly driver panic which is driver error.
If you are driving an SUV you should be aware it doesn't handle like a 911.
If you are driving an SUV you should know what the limits of its handling abilities are.
That way drivers won't try to do the impossible. Braking in a high speed turn isn't necessarily an error (hard braking probably, but some braking might increase forward traction reduce under-steer).
It's funny that often the so-called "speeders" I see are in SUV's that take much longer to stop from higher speeds than the 3,300 pound R8's I rarely see.
#21950 of 22403 Re: . [fintail]
Jul 12, 2013 (9:07 am)
finny, taking offense while driving or elsewhere is a *feeling*. An emotion.
One can respond to one's feelings with consideration or the opposite - with *inconsideration* as we so often see described here, or espoused here.
for example, some inconsiderate drivers respond by deciding whether richy rich driver's wealth was 'earned' or not - and then they elect candidates who help the govt take away more and more of richy rich's wealth/income/anything!
please establish a forum where folks can consult with you and the other arbiters of whether wealth/cars/home/whatever was "earned' or not. I'll be the first to post there - want to find out for sure whether I deserved what i used to have, and what I've still got before its all taxed&epreciated away.
long live the 1% ! and as for us-all 53-percenters, let's not let the 47-percenters get us down, nor any of the self-hating 53% either.
drive considerate of everything about the other driver/car: skill/capability/income-level/kids/dogs/whatever!
Jul 12, 2013 (9:10 am)
In my case, the *emotion* is from nearly being killed by someone. If they aren't doing anything wrong or stupid or incredibly rude, I really don't care what they earned or deserve. But if they are trying to kill me, I don't feel I have to the time to carefully sort the flood of emotions that might seize me at that moment.
Jul 12, 2013 (9:16 am)
he can afford it. 170,000 Euros is like "free" to a person that rich. If you have 10 billion bucks, a new Corvette is like you or I spending a dollar.