Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

21734 messages,  Last post on May 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM

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#21442 of 21734 Re: . [ronsteve] by andres3

Feb 22, 2013 (9:35 am)

Replying to: ronsteve (Feb 18, 2013 10:57 am)
Never heard of the "dead" red law? Is this real or imagined?
 
Vehicle code section?

#21443 of 21734 Re: A black-and-white case of inconsiderate driving [andres3] by fintail

Feb 22, 2013 (9:54 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Feb 22, 2013 9:34 am)
Just don't be in LA in a blue Tacoma when they are searching for a grey Titan

#21444 of 21734 Re: . [andres3] by ronsteve

Feb 22, 2013 (11:24 am)

Replying to: andres3 (Feb 22, 2013 9:35 am)
Never heard of the "dead" red law? Is this real or imagined?
  
Vehicle code section?

 
Different states have different versions of these laws, some more specific to motorcycles and bicycles than others. Quite a few states have no such laws on the books, leaving the only possible defense as common sense.

#21445 of 21734 Re: . [ronsteve] by steve_ HOST

Feb 22, 2013 (11:34 am)

Replying to: ronsteve (Feb 22, 2013 11:24 am)
The bicycle "okay to run red light" law we had in Idaho didn't refer to non-working red lights. You just had to stop at the red and then you could proceed if traffic was clear. It didn't apply to motorcycles like the one in Kansas does.
 
If you're driving and the light doesn't appear to work (hung on red), I guess I'd try to convince the judge that the light was broken so I treated it like a flashing red or four way stop.

#21446 of 21734 Re: . [ronsteve] by xwesx

Feb 22, 2013 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: ronsteve (Feb 22, 2013 11:24 am)
leaving the only possible defense as common sense.
 
Oh, man... we're in a mess of trouble now!

#21447 of 21734 Re: . [steve_] by andres3

Feb 25, 2013 (1:54 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 22, 2013 11:34 am)
I'd suggest putting a bullet through the red light because the fine for vandalism is probably a lot cheaper than the red-light running fine, and a blown out (incapable) red light makes the signal invisible, which is a perfectly legitimate reason for not stopping for the red light (which no longer exists).
 
If you can't see it, it doesn't exist. So take a picture of the non-existent red light after it is blown out to prove it wasn't visible from your standpoint.

#21448 of 21734 Re: . [andres3] by fintail

Feb 26, 2013 (7:06 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (Feb 25, 2013 1:54 pm)
The paranoid money-sucking Praetorian class would consider that an act of terrorism - beware.
 
The horn on the new car works - tried it for the first time today, on a braindead woman in a Volvo wagon who randomly hit the brakes and turned on a fast thoroughfare, no signal. Lots of no signalers out there today, along with a couple of sketchy U-turners and multi lane cutters (BMW X5 was made for this). Many phone holders, of course. I wish I lived in a first world area.

#21449 of 21734 Re: . [fintail] by backy

Feb 26, 2013 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 26, 2013 7:06 pm)
More like vandalism vs. terrorism.
 
Saw a great example of inconsiderate driving today. Car was making a U-turn from the left turn lane, on green arrow, no signs prohibiting it, nobody in the way, i.e. all safe and legal. Except the driver of the SUV behind him apparently was in a big hurry or maybe had too much caffeine, and laid on the horn. Not once, nor twice, nor three times. At least 4 honks, maybe five. All while riding the bumper of the compact car making the U-turn.
 
Today had a bumper crop of inconsiderate / idiotic drivers, for some reason. It was a beautiful day weather-wise, sunny, warm (for MN in late February). Maybe it was the thought of, "Aha, dry pavement at last! Now I can dart in and out of rush hour traffic, just barely missing the bumpers of other cars, etc. etc., just to get 5 seconds ahead!" I love it when I pull up behind those folks at a stoplight a little ways ahead. Or better yet, come up behind them but never stop at all because by the time I get there, anticipating the stop, the light has changed. It's the most fun when I can change to an open lane and glide on by the driver who was in such a hurry to stop at that stop light.

#21450 of 21734 Re: . [backy] by fintail

Feb 26, 2013 (7:56 pm)

Replying to: backy (Feb 26, 2013 7:25 pm)
You never know what charges could come up with how some need to defend their funding and ego.
 
U-turners - can be a problem here. Some of the problems are the newbies who will throw one anywhere at any time, no matter the oncoming traffic or narrowness of the road, then making a 14 point turn or hard curb scrape in their Corolla. Worst are the legal u-turn areas, and how free right turn takers don't yield to the turners. They don't seem to grasp that the u-turner both has a green light and is turning in a designated area.
 
New car has a 7-speed transmission which engine brakes - I've found pleasure in rolling up to lights or slow traffic patches without using brakes. Might be considered a mellow driving habit.

#21451 of 21734 Re: . [fintail] by xrunner2

Feb 26, 2013 (8:33 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Feb 26, 2013 7:06 pm)
The paranoid money-sucking Praetorian class would consider that an act of terrorism - beware.
 
Had to look that up. Praetorian was guards used by Roman emperors. Some bit of obscure knowledge only relevant on Jeopardy. What would the category name and dollar amount be if on the tv show?
 
I'll take what? for x amount of dollars. Name the category.
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