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#21341 of 22409 Re: Don't wanna slow down? [xwesx]
Jan 27, 2013 (2:11 pm)
Your LLC - My guess, he was going to turn left. Probably 5 or 6 miles down the road, but he got in the left lane because he was going to be turning left. No matter that he violated the 'keep right except to pass' rule, or the traffic was light and he could easily get into the left lane when he actually came close to his turn, in his mind he was going to be turning left, so he posted his vehicle in the left lane.
I've kept people in sight, ones running at the speed limit in the left lane, several time while going north out of my town. About 6 miles up the road is a cross road that leads to a small town and out into the country with several homes, and this is where they make their turn. After camping in the left lane for 5 or more miles.
Or, he was of the opinion that if he was going the speed limit, it made no matter which lane, left or right, he drove in. And even if there was traffic and he was impeading 'speeders' in the left lane, he did not need to move right. I think he has left about a year ago, but there was a poster in here (don't remember his nam) that defended his right to do this to the limit. Whick led to long series of postings with various people 'again' him, but never shaking his opinion.
#21342 of 22409 Re: Don't wanna slow down? [bolivar]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:06 am)
Well, possibly. This road was a "freeway" by American standards, and has only limited access exits and entrances - all on the right. About 20 miles down the road from where we were, it has a major split, but does so by adding a third lane.
Really, I was just curious to see whether the driver would change lanes to pass me when I was going extraordinarily slow, given that they had no particular reason to be in the left lane at all with the light traffic and no traffic going slower (or even the same speed as) than this driver. It was a psychological experiment.
The end result was that I found this driver was truly a left lane camper. No rhyme, no reason, just a person who wanted to drive in the left lane. Period. I had my laugh out of it and continued on my way.
#21343 of 22409 Re: . [backy]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:17 am)
Well, the harm typically is that on many two-lane roads, they've built up enough over the years that the left turn may take a long while to accomplish, and traffic could back up dramatically in the mean time by no fault of the left turner. I don't know your particular situation, but this doesn't sound like the case.
I can't speak for Minnesota, but in the states where I have resided, the law states that passing on the right is acceptable if there is sufficient space to safely pass without leaving the surface of the roadway. Your having a small car could allow this to be the case, even with a snow-narrowed roadway.
I know how you feel, though, as I've been passed both safely and unsafely on the right before, too. I tend to drive in a manner that enables other drivers to get around me when I'd otherwise hold them up (such as while slowing to make a turn, hauling a heavy load, etc), yet sometimes it just isn't safe to get other drivers around me even though I don't want to hold them up. Sometimes they wait and sometimes they don't, but they're the ones who have to make that choice.
#21344 of 22409 Re: . [xwesx]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:22 am)
We're talking a hold up here of all of 2-3 seconds. What's the g.d. hurry?
And I am not about to crowd the centerline of the road (unsafely) just to give Mr. CantWait a little extra room to pass on the right with his truck. The driving lane is narrow enough as it is. 99.9% of drivers on this road realize that and wait patiently, safely, and considerately for left-turners.
#21345 of 22409 Re: . [backy]
Jan 28, 2013 (11:28 am)
Like I said, the scenario I painted in my post didn't sound like it was the case here.
Many of the roads I drove in Oregon as a youth, as well as those in Pennsylvania where we visit from time to time, are not safe to pass on the right, as you're lucky if you even have enough room to paint a fog line! And, yet, people would still pass on the right from time to time (illegally).
Jan 29, 2013 (11:18 am)
This morning was the time for dumb turners. First up - 4 lane road with a center turn lane. White Sienna slows in the far right lane, starts to turn left without looking, almost hits a car and gets honked at, then when clear makes a left turn from the far right lane. Not 5 minutes later, a different white Sienna on a 2 lane street with a center turn lane makes a left turn with no signal and without using the turn lane. Topped it off by a seeing a Sprinter cargo van on a busy 4 lane + turn lane arterial making a right turn from the left lane, after nearly coming to a stop on a green light. Wonderful place to walk, drive, bike, anything.
Jan 29, 2013 (5:56 pm)
Jetta just rear ended a Fusion, right outside/below my front room window (phone photo through screen). I could only see cracked bumpers, but the impact was loud enough to make me get up and look:
#21348 of 22409 Re: . [fintail]
Jan 30, 2013 (9:29 am)
"Oops! Sorry, dude, I was texting my girlfriend!"
#21349 of 22409 Re: . [xwesx]
Jan 30, 2013 (11:26 am)
Funny thing, I could hear the Fusion guy talking pretty loudly to Jetta woman.
Speaking of texting - heading to work early this morning, around 0530. On a straight road, very few cars, but notice a few going around something very slow. I caught up and went by, it was a Highlander, driver had a phone up almost to their face, not talking, but apparently reading it. Very good, especially with the propensity of local joggers/dog walkers to go out at night in a black cap/black top/black pants/black shoes/etc.
Jan 31, 2013 (9:42 am)
Yesterday we had a high of over 50 and most of the snow melted causing puddles. The area I was driving through had a lot of offices, restaurants, and hotels. The sidewalks are separated from the road by about 20 feet, not including the shoulder/bike lane. Traffic was moving about 30 and a Honda/Kia/Hyundai three cards ahead of me moved very quickly to his right. About 6 feet. To hit the puddle well out of lane we were traveling. To soak a couple of guys in suits who happened to be walking on the sidewalk.