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#21328 of 21741 Re: . [fintail]
Jan 25, 2013 (8:26 pm)
How much is the ticket for failing to yield right of way to a pedestrian in a crosswalk? I'll bet it's not small. Revenue opportunity there also.
But anyway, your whole argument about LEOs being in the wrong place because of chasing revenue is irrelevant to this discussion. Meaning it's a huge red herring.
#21329 of 21741 Re: . [backy]
Jan 25, 2013 (8:38 pm)
I have no idea, but no doubt the volume of speeders is higher, and the citations easier to defend. To serve and protect also has to do with protecting revenue streams.
What discussion? I posted about my daily road experience, someone else chimed in with a weird devils advocate/red herring based complaint as per usual. Looks like I need to install a filter. When I mention my experience, I determine what is relevant. Local LEOs have iffy priorities, and too many local drivers, well, nothing more need be said.
#21330 of 21741 Re: Don't wanna slow down? [imidazol97]
Jan 26, 2013 (12:14 am)
Yep, and mixing those two types in low visibility is a recipe for disaster.
I came across a true LLC a few days ago coming out of Anchorage. He was driving a late-model GMC truck pulling a 20' or so double-axle covered trailer. This person was going 65 on the button, with no need to be in the left lane at all, but happy as a clam to be there. I decided to perform an experiment on him, so I pulled in front, then let off the accelerator, wondering at what speed he would decide to switch lanes and go around (traffic was relatively light, but there were a few vehicles stacked up behind him). I was down to about 45 by the time all the other vehicles went around us, yet he just stayed where he was in the left lane, tooling along behind me.
Now THAT is an LLC! I just laughed, set the cruise back at 70, and slowly pulled away (he resumed his previous 65 mph speed, always in the left lane).
#21331 of 21741 Re: . [backy]
Jan 26, 2013 (12:18 am)
Also I'd like to see tickets issued to people who pass on the right... when there's no lane there.
Passing on the right... on a two lane road? That's not illegal if the vehicle being passed is stopped to turn left and the passing vehicle does not have to leave the roadway (e.g., paved surface of the road) to do so.
#21332 of 21741 Re: Don't wanna slow down? [xwesx]
Jan 26, 2013 (7:35 am)
> so I pulled in front, then let off the accelerator, wondering at what speed he would decide to switch lanes and go around (traffic was relatively light, but there were a few vehicles stacked up behind him). I was down to about 45
I assume the speed limit was 65? So slowing down to 45 made a new LLC'er. Did that prove anything?
If you were able to easily pass the person, they didn't speed up to keep you from pulling back into your lane apparently, which is the left lane, were they the LLC in the end or was the car going 45 in the left lane the LLC?
. Why not merrily go on your way, in the left lane, rather than the right if you please, and have a good day?
#21333 of 21741 Re: Don't wanna slow down? [xwesx]
Jan 26, 2013 (8:28 am)
He'd probably react like you were speaking Greek if you told him the idea of "keep right except to pass" - I think some chronic clueless LLCing traditionalists might think it is some kind of socialist pinko nonsense.
I like doing the opposite - when a dope speeds up while I am passing, I will keep speeding up to see how far they will take it.
#21334 of 21741 LLC & MLC roadway behavior
Jan 26, 2013 (9:34 am)
over the million miles or so, it's possible to do detailed psychological studies of the LLC, by out-LLCing/MLCing them verrrrry slowly and gradually...
results were as follows:
- 99.4% of MLCs *will pass* on the left, or rarely on the right, when they find themselves out-MLC'd. half the time they are female, half the time male.
- 99.997% of when an LLC is out-LLC'd, he will *slow down arbitrarily to any speed whatsoever* in order to stay in the left lane rather than moving right. These most-typical LLCs will only move right just before they take an exit. another observation: LLCs always seem to be male!
#21335 of 21741 Re: . [xwesx]
Jan 26, 2013 (11:09 am)
Passing on the shoulder of a two-lane road isn't illegal? News to me. At the least, it's unsafe... with snowbanks sticking out into the shoulder in this case, meaning there's barely enough room for the passing vehicle to squeeze by--if I didn't have a compact, there wouldn't have been enough room.
This was a 30 mph road. What's the harm of waiting for the turning car to turn, vs. trying to squeeze by on the constricted shoulder of the road?
#21336 of 21741 Re: LLC & MLC roadway behavior [elias]
Jan 26, 2013 (11:44 am)
" LLCs always seem to be male!"
That matches my experience.
#21337 of 21741 Re: not the papers, in the papers [imidazol97]
Jan 27, 2013 (9:39 am)
ahh the big dots lol. we have them here on the east coast too. on route 42 in delaware funny thing is theyre on a 2 lane road with a 55mph posted speed limit with a huge sign with a picture of a cars rear end and 3 big dots behind it.
saying you must have this many dots between you and the car in front, yeah like people read signs between using their cell phone, ipod etc. what will they think of next.. maybe well be like the europeans with the tone beeping when you get too close or the car automatically keeping distance....the hits just keep on comin...lol