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#21255 of 22396 Re: LLD [gogogodzilla]
Jan 16, 2013 (5:27 am)
>What I see are two dominators on the road... fighting for dominance over each other,
Odd that you, once again, would try to paint me as at fault for being in the left lane of 3 (4) lanes. Remember I had just come through a dangerous, narrowed lane, and uneven construction area where the speed limit is and should be 45 and the traffic is moved to the temporary opposing lanes. The truck came out of nowhere, most likely having sped through the construction at 65 and was coming up catching me just as I was speeding above the limit by 5 or so. The limit have just risen back to 55 on a completed area of the construction.
When someone starts in being a dominator, I just wait for them to leave the area so it's safe to merge to the right more lanes. Note, that in 6 more miles after he passed on the right without spending 1/2 mile trying to push me out of his lane, he didn't leave the left lane once even though both right lanes of 3 were open and the middle lane was open for driving at his 5 or so over 65. Never moved over once. A big clue for the LLD status.
You'll be happy to know I drove 80 or so miles to OSU campus yesterday on a mostly 3 lane interstate and I was in the right hand lane 99% of the distance. Hardly a left lane cruiser.
I did get to see a couple of potential LLD's get stopped by the OSP. I was watching the OSP plane making tight circles and was feeling sorry for the people in the plane probably getting dizy, but I knew they were probably following a target for the ground car to stop. There was one OSP car active on the opposite side of the interstate with a violator on the side already. Lo and behold here came 2 OSP cars merging into traffic and each singled out an SUV and their lights came on. Two more violators slowed. They were caught in the left lane and actually pulled onto the median berm rather than to the right hand berm for their traffic stops.
The OSP still had the plane out on my return trip an hours or so later, but only had one active car making stops that I could spot.
#21256 of 22396 Re: LLD [imidazol97]
Jan 16, 2013 (6:04 am)
I'm currently taking the online National Safety Council Defensive Driving course, to shave 10% off my insurance (can do that if 55+). Based on what they teach there re defensive driving... both you and the truck driver were in the wrong.
The truck driver should not have driven in a "dominating" way in the left lane.
However, you should have done everything reasonable to get out of the way of the dominating driver... just let him get by you so you could get to a safer position on the road, one with less stress and risk of an accident. You say you wait for dominators to leave the area. Instead, YOU should be the one to "leave the area" as soon as it's safe for you to do so. You have control over your actions. You can't control what other drivers will do.
It has nothing to do with being a "left lane cruiser" or not. It has to do with driving defensively, and taking whatever actions are prudent to lessen the risk of an accident or violation.
Jan 16, 2013 (6:46 pm)
Clear evening, a little light in the sky, so about 100 cars with no lights. I don't understand.
Not a bad drive, saw 2 turners from the wrong lane - jerky middle aged exec type in a late model Range Rover, phone to ear, right turn from left lane on a 4 lane arterial. Prime candidate for fines based on finances. Then someone I won't describe in an Odyssey (if you are local, I bet you can guess), left turn from the right lane of a similar road. Saw a few other phone users, no crosswalk crowders.
Jan 17, 2013 (9:27 am)
On the way into work this morning - I was in the left lane of a four lane divided highway (two in each direction) moving at about 50mph (SL 55). Traffic was heavy, but moving nicely. Approaching a side street, I see a WRX getting ready to pull into traffic. I see him jump into a tiny hole in traffic, and hear him accelerate hard. The car he pulled in front of had to hit the brakes a little.
A couple seconds later, he's in the left lane two cards behind me.
Then in the right, then left, right, left.....
I counted 18 lane changes in 3.5 miles which placed him in the right lane barely ahead of me, at which time he turned into the parking lot of an office building. All those lane changes to advance three positions and get to work five seconds earlier!
#21259 of 22396 Re: Late? [jjackson12]
Jan 17, 2013 (9:59 am)
I had a Hummer H2 makes about 6 lane changes in a mile on a 40mph 4 lane road behind me, yesterday. When I exited, he had gained maybe a car length. Just the kind of vehicle I expect that from (WRX too).
#21260 of 22396 Re: Late? [jjackson12]
Jan 17, 2013 (10:27 am)
No harm, no foul. At least the driver kept himself busy on the task of driving. I daresay that's better than texting, makeup application, or other distractions that many "drivers" busy themselves with over that same distance.
Jan 18, 2013 (11:45 am)
Like you, I see TONS of drivers with cell phones to their ears, yet I never hear of anyone being stopped for this primary offense.
What's up with that?
They always are crying for more money, yet this is a great source of revenue....
#21262 of 22396 Re: . [slorenzen]
Jan 18, 2013 (12:27 pm)
It's too much work, I think. Far less effort involved in sitting with a radar gun and a cuppa, or setting up cameras.
I swear, at any given moment here, at least a quarter of the "drivers" on the road are not really driving.
What's worst is that they waste effort with public information campaigns about "laws", then do a negligent job with enforcement.
#21264 of 22396 Re: . [backy]
Jan 18, 2013 (6:55 pm)
I don't know if I can buy that. It's easy - phone to ear = violation = ticket. Patrol cars all have cameras now, install some more, and let the proof be in the pictures.
Make any phone inputs/holding while in motion a violation. Syncing to bluetooth, using speakerphone, anything. And again enter the cameras. Make refusing to use integrated bluetooth an additional fine. And implement wealth based fine scales.
And really, give the fines more teeth.
It might be difficult, but that's life - some parts of all of our jobs are more difficult than others.
Or if revenue enforcers refuse to do this because it isn't easy, let them enforce turn signal and crosswalk regulations, which also seem to go ignored.
Driving home tonight: 400 year old woman in a Prius, getting dark out, no lights, going 30-35 in a 40 where everyone goes 45, so every car was zooming by, and she was a pylon. I didn't know whether to feel sorry or annoyed. Then got behind a typical older suit in a LS460AWD - slowly takes off at green, one lane left turn onto 2 lane road, he swings wide into the far right lane with no signal, crawls, gets into left lane, crawls. I think he was holding something. Local car too, so no lost excuse.
Only saw 1 other no lights car, an Edge with some senior ladies in it, parking lights only. Maybe those were the automatic lights?
While jogging, I am in a crosswalk on green, grey 08-10 or so Accord cuts in without looking, misses me by a small margin, I throw up my arms in an Italian palms-up style gesture, and the driver yells at me . Ah passive-aggressive Seattle. He then drives slow, yaps some more, but quietly - couldn't understand him. I was going to say something funny like "I'm not interested in a date, sorry", but I was short on breath and not feeling it. So I said "go away", and slowly, he did. In Florida, that would probably get you shot.