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#20668 of 21734 Re: . [roadburner] by xrunner2

Nov 05, 2012 (11:09 am)

Replying to: roadburner (Nov 05, 2012 10:35 am)
If someone rides my bumper I usually speed up and try to lure him/her into making a stupid mistake.
 
Is that considerate?
 
Been there, done that, do that. At times. Perhaps inconsiderate. Especially on one of the many interstate ramps I use which has a decreasing radius. If ramp clear ahead, can drive briskly and watch some fool who was on my bumper at ramp entrance start to back off quite a bit.

#20669 of 21734 Re: . [roadburner] by gogogodzilla

Nov 05, 2012 (4:08 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Nov 05, 2012 10:35 am)
I've done that before.
 
The last highway exit I use, the one for me to get off onto my local city street near home, has a nice off ramp.
 
One that is a relatively tight downhill turn that's slightly off-camber. I tend to take it at 50-mph... and the lateral acceleration does pull me heavily to one side.
 
And last week, I had an old Mercedes on my tail when I took the turn. When I exited the turn, that car wasn't anywhere to be seen. 15 seconds later, he finally popped out onto the road.
 
Of course, he then floored it, passed me in the passing lane, and honked his horn for the entire pass.

#20670 of 21734 Re: . [fintail] by roadburner

Nov 05, 2012 (6:48 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 05, 2012 10:40 am)
Maybe if people are made so uncomfortable from some relatively minor g-forces, they need to hire a cab or take the bus. Seriously
 
Exactly- along with the idiots who say, " I can't buy a RWD car because I need to be able to drive in the rain."

#20671 of 21734 Re: . [roadburner] by xrunner2

Nov 06, 2012 (9:20 am)

Replying to: roadburner (Nov 05, 2012 6:48 pm)
Exactly- along with the idiots who say, " I can't buy a RWD car because I need to be able to drive in the rain."
 
Am in far northern part of Illinois. Snow common from early Dec to early March. Had a number of rear drivers with V8's and posi and could drive safely in snow with 4 snow tires. That included a time when studs were legal and mounted at 4 corners made the car very good in the snow. But, found that FWD with 4 snow tires is quite a bit better than RWD with 4 snows.
 
Mentioned before, that in a previous winter, a friend in his 3 series coupe with all-season tires had great difficulty coming up our long inclined driveway in a fresh snowfall of little depth. He probably would have made it much easier if he had snow tires. Our front drivers always get up the driveway as long as we don't try to drive in snow deep enough to hang up the underside. If that deep, have to park the car at side of road and go get snowblower.

#20672 of 21734 Re: . [roadburner] by fintail

Nov 06, 2012 (10:00 am)

Replying to: roadburner (Nov 05, 2012 6:48 pm)
Some of the hypocritical law and order types love to preach about driving being a "privelege", but their mentality sets the bar lower for said "privelege" every day. Setting policies as not to offend the timid only lowers outcomes for everyone.
 
In Seattle, it's "I need AWD/4WD to drive in the rain", the same logic that demands a couple buy a Suburban when even thinking about bring devilspawn to the world.
 
Here's a pic from the outside work parking lot during the last big snow event in the Seattle area, 4 years ago - cars of fools who still believed that results matter. There's one RWD car present. Guess who drove it?
 

 
Regarding ramps, seems I usually get tailed by some chavved-out Acura or maybe a small SUV. I think they see the AMG badge and try to play - so I just speed way up. They just can't win.

#20673 of 21734 Re: . [xrunner2] by victor23

Nov 06, 2012 (10:02 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 06, 2012 9:20 am)
1. Proof of principle: Driving in the snow (including deep snow) is possible in a RWD (no ABS) with bald all-season tires, sometimes with a little help of a shovel. I did it myself for many years.
 
2. Incontestable fact: Nevertheless, FWD is much superior over RWD in any snow.
 
3. Back to the original post: If there is no snow, only rain, any driver with average skills should have no problems whatsoever in any vehicle.
 
4. Related: AWD is really needed very very rarely. And when it is, you would often want a real 4WD, not a fake AWD.

#20674 of 21734 Re: . [fintail] by xrunner2

Nov 06, 2012 (10:24 am)

Replying to: fintail (Nov 06, 2012 10:00 am)
Here's a pic from the outside work parking lot during the last big snow event in the Seattle area, 4 years ago
 
Looks like just a little more than a dusting.
 
Apparently, snow in Seattle is a rare event and folks can just stay home until....what? It melts, scraped clean, plowed, what?
 
Heard that a province in Canada has made it a requirement that all cars have 4 snow/winter tires in winter months. Might be a good idea for States such as COLO, WISC, NY, MINN, PENN, etc. Look at how that would stimulate economy what with sales of 4 snows, 4 wheels, mounting, dismounting, etc.
 
Then, with every one in cars, suvs having snows, we would not have inconsiderate drivers in "just" all season tires holding up traffic at intersections and driving extremely slowly.

#20675 of 21734 Re: . [xrunner2] by fintail

Nov 06, 2012 (10:30 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 06, 2012 10:24 am)
That was 2 days after the event. There was about 10" at my place - a once in a decade event for those parts, a dusting for much of the country. Snow removal is second world in the Seattle area, so unless you live on the same street as the mayor, you're probably out of luck. Many areas simply don't have plows or snow chemicals/salt.
 
Other countries have similar tire rules. I'd only hope that tire rule wouldn't give false confidence, like what seems to impact trucks and SUVs after the first snow. Keeps tow companies in business.

#20676 of 21734 Re: . [xrunner2] by steve_ HOST

Nov 06, 2012 (10:59 am)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Nov 06, 2012 10:24 am)
Quebec.
 
I'm driving to Port Huron tomorrow and plan to take the FWD van with older all-seasons on it. But we're watching the weather and could switch to the Subaru in the morning and take advantage of the newer Nokians on it.
 
Probably just take my chances in the van; it's more comfortable, and I'll have some warm stuff and snacks. And a shovel. And towing insurance.

#20677 of 21734 Saw a real winner today... by andre1969

Nov 06, 2012 (11:42 am)

when I went to the bank at lunch. First, after I got out of the truck and walked across the parking lot to the bank, I heard someone off in the distance getting impatient with the horn, out on the street. I could see two cars stopped on the road, with the lead car looking like it was trying to make a left turn, and a black Dodge Ram behind them, which suddenly jerked off and into the parking lot.
 
Then, I saw it come up one of the aisles in the distance, at a speed a bit unreasonable for a parking lot. It had to stop at a stop sign and wait for cross traffic, as a car made a left turn in front of it. Then, I saw it coming up fast, gaining on that car. By this time I was at the bank, and as I went in, I saw the truck drive past the front.
 
It totally left my mind, and then while I waited for the ATM inside, a man came in behind me, 30-something, with a cane. Then, after about a minute, a security guard popped his head in and said "There's a car behind you that can't get out, so you're going to have to move". I turned around, to see he was talking to the guy with the cane. That guy ended up walking out the door. I popped my head out the door out of curiosity, and was a bit shocked at what I saw.
 
This guy had actually driven his black Dodge Ram through one of the three drive-in lanes, parked at the end of it, and got out! This was the lane for the drive-up ATM, and the car behind him couldn't manuever around him.
 
I'd love to know just what the heck was going through this guy's mind?! He did have a look on his face, like he had a chip on his shoulder and was mad at the world. He ended up parking in one of the handicap spots which was right out in front of the bank...actually a few steps CLOSER than where he had parked, blocking the drive-through lane.
 
Oh, and in the time he had to go and move his truck, someone else got in line behind me, so he had to wait even longer.

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