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#20045 of 21745 Re: Interesting Data [andres3]
by xwesx
Sep 24, 2012 (10:26 am)
Any points are generated through citations only. The crash, in and of itself, does not cause points unless it is cited by law enforcement. For example, there is a catch-all collision citation called "failure to use due care to avoid a collision." It is two points against the license, but can only be used in a situation where two (or more) vehicles collide. The citation is only valid in the event of a collision.
Sep 24, 2012 (1:56 pm)
Went into the city today. First off saw a semi tailgating a car so closely, if I was sitting on the trunklid I easily could have reached out and put my palm on the truck grille. Scary. I backed off, had a bad feeling. Otherwise on the way there, no issues but slowpokes. On the way back, got behind a CX-7 (suspected rental - base model, recent plates, no frames) heading into a tunnel. Leftmost lane. He was moving along OK, but freaked out in the tunnel and got down to about 48 in a 60. Nobody in front of him or beside him. I flashed a couple times, then passed on the right. As I got back into the left lane, he speeds up and gets right on my butt (I am doing about 65-70), so I just let off the gas and coast down to 60. Then he backs way off and I never really see him again. I don't get it. Then went to Costco - small queue in the turn lane leading to the store. Hummer H2 cuts over and jerks into line. I see it in the parking lot, trolling for a spot...I was well into the store by the time he parked. That vehicle and driver group are a prime example of everything wrong with America.
#20047 of 21745 Re: . [fintail]
by backy
Sep 24, 2012 (3:03 pm)
First off saw a semi tailgating a car so closely, if I was sitting on the trunklid I easily could have reached out and put my palm on the truck grille. Scary.
Yes, very. But I know some here would say the truck driver would be justified in ramming the car as it was obviously going too slow.
Not too many offenders for me this morning, except for one of my (not)favorites: entering freeway from a cloverleaf, extremely heavy traffic, but plenty of room for me to slide into right lane... until the Civic with a younger male driver behind me in the right lane floors it ("how DARE you enter the freeway ahead of me, nyah-nyah-ahh!") and comes up alongside, matching my speed even as I accelerate. Merge lane is VERY short, much shorter than the usual short cloverleaf merge lane because of construction--cones and concrete barriers dead ahead. So I bail out and cut in behind him just before the cones. Would have been a no-drama merge with some basic consideration for other drivers, as in maintain speed and let the poor sucker get onto the freeway, whatsittoya?
#20048 of 21745 Re: . [backy]
by xwesx
Sep 24, 2012 (3:58 pm)
Ugh, yeah - those merging inept folks are amongst the worst.
This morning my merge onto the highway was the opposite. I was "stuck" behind a small line of cars (I think I was #4 of 4) that topped out at 50 mph on the ramp. On the road were many cars in both lanes, probably six or seven deep. I figured I was destined for a slow down given that I was likely 10 mph or more slower than traffic on the highway, but alas the driver in the right lane slowed down (gradually, from the look of it) to match our speed and let us all in ahead.
I'm not saying it was the considerate thing to do in the grander scheme, but it made my merge easier! Magically, the driver in the front of the merging line managed to bump up to 60+ once on the highway, as I was going close to 60 and didn't pass anyone on the way into town.
To contrast, last weekend (a week ago last weekend) I was on a small arterial to the downtown area, approaching a bridge from a four lane (two in each direction) feeder that necks down to one lane each way just before the bridge. Traffic was fairly light, but there was about six or seven cars that had stacked up at the preceding light. I was in the right lane, front of the pack at the light. After the light turned green, two vehicles in the left lane worked their way ahead of me, so I slipped in behind the second one. I guess the gal in the black sedan that was third in line didn't understand the idea of a merge (or proper following distance), so sadly I had to help her out there. She honked; I ignored her.
#20049 of 21745 Re: . [backy]
by fintail
Sep 24, 2012 (4:04 pm)
It was a Seattle tailgate though, not a normal one. It seems to be a common thing here when traffic in front of the car being tailgated is heavy, and the tailgated car can't move over. Seems to be the only time I have someone close to my bumper - when I am 10 cars back in a slowdown.
I can't relate to people merging onto a freeway at more than 50mph, no matter the speed of traffic on the freeway.
Sep 24, 2012 (5:05 pm)
I can't relate to people merging onto a freeway at more than 50mph, no matter the speed of traffic on the freeway.
???
You can't relate to people speeding up to highway speeds before actually merging into highway traffic?
#20051 of 21745 Re: . [fintail]
by xwesx
Sep 24, 2012 (5:22 pm)
Hahaha; that's darn funny, fin. When I drove my grandparents' diesel truck with the 13,000# trailer down to Salem, Seattle was the only place where I caught up to cars ahead of me on an on-ramp.
Sep 24, 2012 (5:51 pm)
I did driver's ed. in 1972. Our drive car was a little '72 Nova with a 305. On freeway day, I think i surprised the instructor when I punched it at the top of the on-ramp & merged at about 75. He told the other 2 students in the back seat "THAT'S how you get on a freeway."
Full disclosure: I'd been coached. Thanks, Dad.
#20053 of 21745 Re: . [gogogodzilla]
by fintail
Sep 24, 2012 (5:56 pm)
Seattle. I usually experience what I call the "Bellevue merge" - hitting the end of an on-ramp at 42mph stuck behind a Lexus or Acura CUV driven by someone who is on the phone or has a terrified deathgrip on the wheel.