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#20041 of 21749 Re: Interesting Data [xrunner2]
by fintail
Sep 22, 2012 (7:52 pm)
It's not just the bumpers that concern me, it is the combination of poor handling and false sense of security.
#20042 of 21749 Re: Interesting Data [xwesx]
by hammerhead
Sep 24, 2012 (7:11 am)
If you're at fault in a crash around here, you will get a ticket. They mail it to you, but it's still yours.
And all this talk of speed - sometimes it's not how fast the flow is, its those few that go a lot faster (or slower) than the 'average' speed (if there really is such a thing). It's the convergence of those at or near the limit with those faster or slower where the crashes & conflicts occur. LLC enforcement would alleviate that somewhat, as would keeping the real slowpokes off the interstates.
Sep 24, 2012 (8:30 am)
Was out in the old car a bit yesterday. First stupidity was at a 5 way intersection, all streets having a stop sign. I am there first, stop and look as one way is a completely blind corner, after I stop some teenage looking girls in a Pilot pull up to my left. I start to move, the so-called driver makes a poor California style stop, and breezes through. Laid on the horn, passenger just stares at me like I am from Mars. Princess is going to be awesome when she marries well and spends a useless life flaunting around in an RX or ML.
Got to experience 405, my most beloved local highway. Even in the old car, I spent a lot of time in the left lane, and don't think I exceeded 65. Some were crawling along at what must have been 45-50 in a 60 with unremarkable volumes. Some posters here would love it! Also got behind a horse trailer on a highway interchange that was going so slow that there were literally 25 or so cars stacked up behind it when the road finally widened. I know driving one of those has to be hard, but it should be done during hours when the roads are empty.
#20045 of 21749 Re: Interesting Data [andres3]
by xwesx
Sep 24, 2012 (10:26 am)
Any points are generated through citations only. The crash, in and of itself, does not cause points unless it is cited by law enforcement. For example, there is a catch-all collision citation called "failure to use due care to avoid a collision." It is two points against the license, but can only be used in a situation where two (or more) vehicles collide. The citation is only valid in the event of a collision.
Sep 24, 2012 (1:56 pm)
Went into the city today. First off saw a semi tailgating a car so closely, if I was sitting on the trunklid I easily could have reached out and put my palm on the truck grille. Scary. I backed off, had a bad feeling. Otherwise on the way there, no issues but slowpokes. On the way back, got behind a CX-7 (suspected rental - base model, recent plates, no frames) heading into a tunnel. Leftmost lane. He was moving along OK, but freaked out in the tunnel and got down to about 48 in a 60. Nobody in front of him or beside him. I flashed a couple times, then passed on the right. As I got back into the left lane, he speeds up and gets right on my butt (I am doing about 65-70), so I just let off the gas and coast down to 60. Then he backs way off and I never really see him again. I don't get it. Then went to Costco - small queue in the turn lane leading to the store. Hummer H2 cuts over and jerks into line. I see it in the parking lot, trolling for a spot...I was well into the store by the time he parked. That vehicle and driver group are a prime example of everything wrong with America.
#20047 of 21749 Re: . [fintail]
by backy
Sep 24, 2012 (3:03 pm)
First off saw a semi tailgating a car so closely, if I was sitting on the trunklid I easily could have reached out and put my palm on the truck grille. Scary.
Yes, very. But I know some here would say the truck driver would be justified in ramming the car as it was obviously going too slow.
Not too many offenders for me this morning, except for one of my (not)favorites: entering freeway from a cloverleaf, extremely heavy traffic, but plenty of room for me to slide into right lane... until the Civic with a younger male driver behind me in the right lane floors it ("how DARE you enter the freeway ahead of me, nyah-nyah-ahh!") and comes up alongside, matching my speed even as I accelerate. Merge lane is VERY short, much shorter than the usual short cloverleaf merge lane because of construction--cones and concrete barriers dead ahead. So I bail out and cut in behind him just before the cones. Would have been a no-drama merge with some basic consideration for other drivers, as in maintain speed and let the poor sucker get onto the freeway, whatsittoya?
#20048 of 21749 Re: . [backy]
by xwesx
Sep 24, 2012 (3:58 pm)
Ugh, yeah - those merging inept folks are amongst the worst.
This morning my merge onto the highway was the opposite. I was "stuck" behind a small line of cars (I think I was #4 of 4) that topped out at 50 mph on the ramp. On the road were many cars in both lanes, probably six or seven deep. I figured I was destined for a slow down given that I was likely 10 mph or more slower than traffic on the highway, but alas the driver in the right lane slowed down (gradually, from the look of it) to match our speed and let us all in ahead.
I'm not saying it was the considerate thing to do in the grander scheme, but it made my merge easier! Magically, the driver in the front of the merging line managed to bump up to 60+ once on the highway, as I was going close to 60 and didn't pass anyone on the way into town.
To contrast, last weekend (a week ago last weekend) I was on a small arterial to the downtown area, approaching a bridge from a four lane (two in each direction) feeder that necks down to one lane each way just before the bridge. Traffic was fairly light, but there was about six or seven cars that had stacked up at the preceding light. I was in the right lane, front of the pack at the light. After the light turned green, two vehicles in the left lane worked their way ahead of me, so I slipped in behind the second one. I guess the gal in the black sedan that was third in line didn't understand the idea of a merge (or proper following distance), so sadly I had to help her out there. She honked; I ignored her.
#20049 of 21749 Re: . [backy]
by fintail
Sep 24, 2012 (4:04 pm)
It was a Seattle tailgate though, not a normal one. It seems to be a common thing here when traffic in front of the car being tailgated is heavy, and the tailgated car can't move over. Seems to be the only time I have someone close to my bumper - when I am 10 cars back in a slowdown.
I can't relate to people merging onto a freeway at more than 50mph, no matter the speed of traffic on the freeway.
Sep 24, 2012 (5:05 pm)
I can't relate to people merging onto a freeway at more than 50mph, no matter the speed of traffic on the freeway.
???
You can't relate to people speeding up to highway speeds before actually merging into highway traffic?