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#20025 of 21746 Re: Interesting Data [xrunner2] by fintail

Sep 21, 2012 (6:45 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2012 5:31 pm)
Do they keep up with traffic, look before they pull out, etc? Being responsible is more than not being aggressive.

#20026 of 21746 Re: The free right turn? [xrunner2] by fintail

Sep 21, 2012 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2012 4:34 pm)
You know 11PM is 23 hours after midnight, right?
 
I got behind a slowpoke today. CRV going 25 in a 40, then comes to a stop about 30 feet behind a green light, then creeps forward as the light turns red, and takes a free right turn 700 year old woman driver who probably shouldn't be driving.
 
LLCing is illegal in first world civilized areas, where is the oversensitive middle American castigation?

#20027 of 21746 Re: Another source [ronsteve] by fintail

Sep 21, 2012 (6:49 pm)

Replying to: ronsteve (Sep 21, 2012 4:35 pm)
I'd bet that's right. I also suspect it is all about efficient revenue generation. Speeding tickets carry heavier penalties than simple stupid driving infractions that might not carry much of a penalty, if anything. And look how many times the insurance cabal has funded radar guns. Both sides win.
 
Speed kills, to the incompetent.

#20028 of 21746 Re: Interesting Data [fintail] by xrunner2

Sep 21, 2012 (7:08 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Sep 21, 2012 6:45 pm)
Do they keep up with traffic, look before they pull out, etc?
 
Yes and yes. The intimidating drivers I see on the Interstates here in Illinois are definitely not geezers or "seasoned" citizens. They are in a younger bracket and are angry apparently. Many are intimidating. Especially the dopes that have big suvs or pickups. SUVs, vans and pickups should be at same speed limits as big trucks and semis. They have rotten handling and braking and are a menace when speeding and/or intimidating other car drivers by tail gating. Stupid people driving ill-performing vehicles.

#20029 of 21746 Re: Another source [fintail] by xrunner2

Sep 21, 2012 (7:06 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Sep 21, 2012 6:49 pm)
Speeding tickets carry heavier penalties than simple stupid driving infractions that might not carry much of a penalty, if anything.
 
Mainly stupid people and stupid drivers get speeding tickets.

#20030 of 21746 Re: Interesting Data [xrunner2] by fintail

Sep 21, 2012 (8:04 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2012 7:08 pm)
Nobody ever said oldsters were the aggressive ones, but one cannot deny they can cause their own set of headaches on the road.
 
The same lifted truck/SUV roid rage douchebag crowd exists here too, especially as population densities fall. I'd like to see a special license endorsement for vehicles or chassis of a certain height or weight.

#20031 of 21746 Re: Another source [xrunner2] by fintail

Sep 21, 2012 (8:05 pm)

Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 21, 2012 7:06 pm)
Mainly, but not all. Lots of stupid people are allowed to set and enforce the limits, too.

#20032 of 21746 Re: Interesting Data [fintail] by xrunner2

Sep 22, 2012 (8:45 am)

Replying to: fintail (Sep 21, 2012 8:04 pm)
The same lifted truck/SUV roid rage douchebag crowd exists here too, especially as population densities fall. I'd like to see a special license endorsement for vehicles or chassis of a certain height or weight.
 
Would agree. Government regulations are needed here. Such as all cars, suvs, pickups, vans must have their bumpers at a certain height. So, the people that have the jacked up pickups would need to add a bumper extender on the front and back of their vehicles. Kind of like the appendages seen on the backsides of trailers of semi trucks.

#20033 of 21746 Re: Interesting Data [xwesx] by andres3

Sep 22, 2012 (2:35 pm)

Replying to: xwesx (Sep 21, 2012 4:39 pm)
In CA you'll get a point or two for the accident even with no ticket written. In Alaska, is the first point for the ticket and the 2nd for the citation, or can the citation in and of itself be 2 points?
 
I think cops in CA tend to give more leeway as long as you didn't kill or injure anyone, and particularly if you only damaged your own vehicle (I remember a few friends in HS who managed to crash into bushes/guardrails, curbs, rocks/debri but not another person or vehicle).

#20034 of 21746 Re: Another source [ronsteve] by andres3

Sep 22, 2012 (2:44 pm)

Replying to: ronsteve (Sep 21, 2012 4:35 pm)
I'd guess that's because it's easily proven via radar (thank you, insurance industry), and they'd hate to have officers tied up in court having to prove that people committed unsafe acts in order to get convictions.
 
I hear this argument a lot about speeding tickets being unbeatable because of radar and hence no one fights them. I don't buy the premise. No one fights traffic tickets period. I believe every county in the country has a 95% plus conviction rate because less than 5% even attempt to fight their ticket. I don't think it's "radar" that is scaring people from fighting the ticket, but the corrupt rigged traffic court system itself. The amount of time you have to waste to win in court even when your innocent is astounding.
 
Plus, if the officer shows, your bound to be found guilty regardless of the facts of the case. Therefore, officer opinion is as good as gold (and results in near 100% conviction rates) in traffic court, regardless of the vehicle code being contested, all the officer has to do is show and it's in the bag! This fact is probably why a lot don't bother fighting them, as they think the officer will show in their case, and don't want to risk finding out.
 
All of the cases I won 100% except for one were done by dismissal for lack of prosecution (officer didn't show). The one where I was found not guilty was by mail, from a judge retiring that year so as to not face retribution from the Police Union for rendering a fair verdict.
 
On my various trips to the courthouse I sometimes stayed if I was one of the first cases called just to watch a few cases, so I've seen maybe 40 or 50 traffic cases and never has someone been found not guilty completely when the officer has shown. 100% conviction rates..... the officer's have nothing to fear in court. Perhaps if you hire a lawyer for quadruple digits on a 3 digit fine???

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