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#18926 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [xrunner2]
Jul 03, 2012 (1:29 pm)
Luckily very few true cloverleafs in this region. Usually off ramps and on ramps in my area don't share the same patch of road - people here get confused as many can barely handle merging or exiting without having to look for other cars doing the opposite.
#18927 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [xrunner2]
by steve_ HOST
Jul 03, 2012 (4:34 pm)
There's a flying one like that around Austin that got my attention in a rental car a couple of years ago. Not only was it a decreasing radius curve, it felt like it was 150' in the air. I was just tooling along in tourist mode (but close to the "edge" in the right lane) and it woke me up a bit.
Only inconsiderate driver today was a sedate old beater with a loud stereo.
#18928 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [fintail]
Jul 03, 2012 (5:07 pm)
I have to ask what engine was in the Horizon. I had the Omni with the 2.2 and that was pretty peppy. IIRC it was a little under 100 HP pushing a 2300 pound car. After someone made a left turn infront of me I got an Omni GLH (and yeah it did go like hell something like 145 HP). For the mid 80's that was a pretty decent car in off the line acceleration. I do believe that Shelby put out a 175 HP varient of the Omni one year.
#18929 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [snakeweasel]
Jul 03, 2012 (6:56 pm)
My dad's was older, maybe around a 1980...I guess that would be the smaller (1.9?) engine. At least it was a stick. He liked that car a lot, he'd drive it hard and it didn't falter, he raved about how it drove in the snow. I remember he test drove a later Horizon - one that was very plush compared to his car, but he didn't buy it...eventually getting an S-10 Blazer instead, something he didn't like nearly as much. GLH would have been pretty cool back in the day.
#18930 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [snakeweasel]
Jul 03, 2012 (6:58 pm)
One of my friends had one of the final Horizons (1989 or 1990, I forget now), with the 2.2/automatic, and sadly, that thing was a dog. His was a total stripper. No a/c, no power steering/brakes. I put a stereo with a tape player in for him, but I can't remember if it came with an AM radio, or just a face plate, but pre-wiring.
Anyway, he tried to drag race me one time, back when I had my '69 Dart GT. Now, my Dart had the 225-1bbl slant six, which was 145 hp gross, 110 net. Weighed about 2900 lb. Had a/c and power steering, which would rob some power. 3-speed Torqueflite.
The 2.2 had 96 hp, and in theory, I'd think that a 2200-2300 lb car with that engine and no a/c or power steering to sap the power, would be able to take my Dart. But, somehow, I walked him like a dog.
And, to add insult to injury, a couple days later, he tried to blame me for messing up his car! He said that, ever since he tried to drag race me, it wasn't running right!
FWIW, Consumer Reports tested a '68 Dart 270 with the same powertrain as mine, and got 0-60 in 14 seconds (don't remember if it had a/c or not). Consumer Guide tested a 1985 Reliant with the 2.2 and a/c, automatic, and got 0-60 in 13.5 seconds. And you'd think and Omni/Horizon with the same engine but without a/c and a few hundred less pounds, would be quicker than that.
Actually, just looked, and my'85 Consumer Guide tested an '85 Horizon wit the 2.2 and a stick, and got 0-60 in 10.2 seconds. They also tested an '85 Omni GLH with the slightly hotter 110 hp (versus 96 hp) 2.2 and a stick, and it wasn't much quicker...10.1 seconds.
146 and 175 are actually turbo 2.2 hp numbers. Did they ever put the turbo in the Omni/Horizon? I had an '88 LeBaron turbo with the 146 hp version, which I think they called the Turbo I. 175 hp was the Turbo II I think, and I believe the Turbo III was the 224 hp engine that went in the Dodge Spirit R/T.
As for the Omni GLH, there were several versions over the years. I think the '85 only had around
#18931 of 21740 Re: BMW M5 SPANKED BY MUSTANG BOSS 302 [andre1969]
Jul 03, 2012 (8:24 pm)
They also tested an '85 Omni GLH with the slightly hotter 110 hp (versus 96 hp) 2.2 and a stick, and it wasn't much quicker...10.1 seconds.
The '85 GLH was a modified (tuned) 2.2 liter. in '86 and later the GLH had a turbo 2.2. IIRC the 0-60 time was around 8 seconds +/-. One year they did a GLHs which was around 6 seconds 0-60, only 500 of those were built.
#18932 of 21740 Idiots in parking lots
Jul 04, 2012 (9:10 am)
Had another occurrence of one of my pet peeves this morning. I was backing out of a parking lot space, big SUV to my right so I couldn't see anything that direction. I backed very slowly so the rear of my car was sticking out to be visible with its backup lamps, waited for a warning honk, there was none, so kept backing out slowly until I could see the traffic lane. This black pickup is speeding down the lane much faster than they should be in a busy parking lot. No warning honk, doesn't slow/stop when he sees me backing blindly, just keeps going. I saw him and slammed on my brakes just in time.
This happens all the time, people blasting through parking lots without regard who might be trying to back out, with poor visibility due to all the trucks/vans/SUVs out there. They probably are just as oblivious on the open road. That is a chilling thought.
This was about 10 am on the 4th. No doubt the guy had a very important appointment on the holiday.
#18933 of 21740 Re: Idiots in parking lots [backy]
Jul 04, 2012 (9:28 am)
We need to outlaw the large vehicles. I hate pulling up next to one at a multiple lane exit or stop sign and having to look for traffic with a big honking hunk of metal next to me much larger than a car.
#18934 of 21740 Re: Idiots in parking lots [imidazol97]
Jul 04, 2012 (9:32 am)
Or maybe we could get bumper stickers like, "Start seeing around SUVs!"
#18935 of 21740 Re: Idiots in parking lots [backy]
Jul 04, 2012 (3:21 pm)
Key reason I hate SUVs and CUVs, aside from their usually oblivious drivers - impossible to see around them. Most seem to have tinted windows as well, almost like they are doing it on purpose. There is no vehicle less considerate to surrounding motorists.