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Pocket protector by xrunner2
Jul 22, 2009 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 21, 2009 9:32 am)

Probably was wearing a pocket protector, too.
 
So, what's wrong with pocket protectors? I have used the kind that had slot for company photo ID/Pass and magnets on front and back to hold onto pockets. The IT geeks usually wear their passes dangling from a chain around their neck.
 
Not seen any inconsiderate drivers in last couple days. Maybe moon is in good phase and most peoples' biorythms up.
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Re: Pocket protector [xrunner2] by andre1969
Jul 22, 2009 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 22, 2009 6:02 am)

So, what's wrong with pocket protectors?
 
Well, with this guy, it was just the icing on the cake...it completed the look! Oh, yesterday I walked outside to get some fresh air, and saw a guy in an office that looked kinda like the Camry dude from the other day. It's hard to tell though, and I think they have a machine that clones guys like that around here! Anyway, I did walk out into the parking lot, and did a quick scan, but saw no dark green '92-96 Camry wagons...so probably a different guy.
 
But, other than that incident the other day, no inconsiderate drivers of any significance since then. Only thing even remotely noteworthy was this morning. I was in the NYer again, and came upon traffic congestion. I slowed down gradually, rather than having to hit the brakes. However, I saw one of those little wanna-be Jeeps coming up on me at a rapid clip (not the Liberty, but the little bug-eyed thing with the Gremlin roofline...its name eludes me right now). Didn't look like it was going to stop, so I covered the brake just enough to make the brakelights come on. She got a little close, slowed down when she had to, and then zipped into the other lane when it was clear. Not nearly as close as the guy with the Camry though, and no exaggerated facial expressions or hand gesture drama.
 
Heck, even the dude with the Escape in the parking lot hasn't drawn my attention. Someone rounded up all the road cones and put them away somewhere, and he hasn't found anything to barricade around his car lately.
 
I did notice the other day though, that there were not one, but TWO Priuses parked by my NYer. I swear, people do this to make some kind of tree-hugger statement. If I drive the Intrepid or the pickup truck, nobody notices, but my old cars seem to attract hybrids like flies.
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Re: yesterday... [andre1969] by oldfarmer50
Jul 22, 2009 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: andre1969 (Jul 21, 2009 9:32 am)

"...Probably was wearing a pocket protector..."
 
Watch out for those guys. Didn't you ever see the movie "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas?
 
Today I was making a left at a multi-lane intersection and was waiting for the left turn signal to turn green. The lanes next to me had the green and the cars coming from the right had the red.
 
I look over and see a woman on the right who has the red trying to make a right on red. Behind her is a young (read impatient) male driver who thinks she isn't being bold enough. He starts blaring his horn at her which distracts her and makes her more cautious.
 
He continues blaring his horn until she finally creeps out and drives down the right hand lane. This cowboy follows her through the red and jerks over to the left lane gunning his engine and roars past her.
 
Remind me of the law. Right on red is an option, correct, not a requirement?
 
What gives these road warriors the idea that people HAVE to get out of their way?
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Re: yesterday... [oldfarmer50] by the_big_al
Jul 22, 2009 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 22, 2009 3:21 pm)

ya - I think that is how it goes... I have had that happen to me a few times where the right turn on red is all perfectly fine, except you can't see far enough down the road to know whether it's clear or not unless you put your front end in the direct line of fire... So it's just best to wait until the green and I have had people inch forward behind me until they might as well push me out into traffic trying to get me to go. I think my safety and my car staying in one piece is more important that letting some dude behind me save 30 seconds.
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Re: yesterday... [oldfarmer50] by snakeweasel
Jul 22, 2009 (6:35 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 22, 2009 3:21 pm)

Remind me of the law. Right on red is an option, correct, not a requirement?
 
Correct. Funny that you posted this as the same thing happened to me today. Its a 'T' intersection I am on the through road making a right turn onto the road that begins at the intersection. I am in the right turn lane and the light is red (no green arrow). To my right is a sign proclaiming "NO TURN ON RED" across the intersection right in front of me is another sign repeating "NO TURN ON RED" and behind me is some idiot blaring on his horn.
 
After I made the turn the idiot just tailgated me (the road was just one lane in each direction),
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Re: This ever happer to you? [oldfarmer50] by snakeweasel
Jul 22, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 05, 2009 2:09 pm)

Back to the center lane issue. Last week I pulled into a gas station at a busy intersection. As I was pumping gas I looked up just in time to see a police car going away from the intersection hit his light and pull into the oncoming traffics left turn lane to block a car. Apparently this car was passing traffic in the median prior to the beginning of the left turn lane. The cop got out of his car and started yelling "Where are you going". He had a discussion with the driver for a minute or two then got back into his car and drove off.
 
Yesterday I was driving down one street (same town as above but in a different area). Its two lanes in each direction with a slightly raised median. Traffic here backs up enough that it can take several cycles to get through one light and backs up well past the left turn lane. Cars turning left ride the median past stopped traffic to the left turn lane. Every few days there is a cop near the intersection looking for these drivers and issuing tickets. Well yesterday I was being followed by a semi truck to the intersection and the truck went into the left turn lane. However traffic was backed up enough that I stopped just after the left turn lane started to branch off. So when the truck went into the lane it had to ride with its left tires on the median (right tires stayed on the marked pavement). As soon as he went by me I saw the cop pull out and get behind the truck. Sure enough as soon as they made the turn and cleared the intersection the lights went on the cop car.
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Re: yesterday... [snakeweasel] by fintail
Jul 22, 2009 (6:55 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 22, 2009 6:35 pm)

I've had that happen at 'no turn' posted intersections too. I usually reach out and point at the signs.
 
Around here, a lot of drivers are afraid to take an easy free turn, and many will slow down to a crawl at green turn arrows.
 
Today I saw a fun idiot on my drive home, young woman in an older RL, probably a hand me down from daddy, weaving in and out traffic, tailgating, in a big hurry. If she was from this specific area, she would know that such driving won't get her anywhere - the lights are not sequenced for efficient traffic flow, but rather to bunch traffic up at 75% of lighted intersections. I was behind her for a mile or so - she never gained more than a few car lengths.
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Re: yesterday... [oldfarmer50] by tallman1
Jul 22, 2009 (7:07 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 22, 2009 3:21 pm)

Remind me of the law. Right on red is an option, correct, not a requirement?
 
The Washington state law is: "However, the vehicle operators facing a steady circular red signal may, after stopping proceed to make a right turn..." I underlined the word "may", which certainly makes it look like an option.
 
Interestingly enough, when I was taking my driving test, lo those many years ago, I got docked a couple of points because I DIDN'T take the free right turn.
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Re: yesterday... [tallman1] by ruking1
Jul 22, 2009 (7:16 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 22, 2009 7:07 pm)

I think at times the laws change and as the result of rendering some well intentioned "habits" no longer applicable. Now this does NOT mean you can't or shouldn't apply them!!??
 
Two examples:
 
1. do NOT change lanes in an intersection. Not only unsafe, but illegal.
 
Now (to my mind it is) less than safe but... NOW... NOT illegal.
 
2. PASS on the LEFT and/or "passing lane": clearly NOT !!?? (see how the language is like a basketball stutter step with styling cues from the "old days")
 
pg 26..."Pass traffic on the left. You may pass on the right only when:
• An open highway is clearly
marked for two or more lanes of
travel in your direction."...
 
Of course this is not to mention the numerous times the left or passing or #1 lane is used for LL CAMPING. and indeed they do not. CA Drivers Handbook 2009
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Re: yesterday... [tallman1] by snakeweasel
Jul 22, 2009 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jul 22, 2009 7:07 pm)

The Washington state law is....
 
IIRC the law here in IL states that traffic must be clear from both directions. So technically if there is no traffic in the direction you are turning into but one car going the other direction entering the intersection you cannot make the turn.
 
That being said I wish I had a dime for every time I had to hit the brakes or swerve to miss some idiot that made an unsafe right turn on red.

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