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Re: What can be done about [ruking1] by fintail
Jul 15, 2009 (8:23 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 15, 2009 6:46 am)

I usually don't buy the claims that people "didn't hear" the sirens and lights behind them....but then I see how oblivious the lowest common denominator can be, with a cranked up stereo, phone on one ear, mirrors aimed at nothing...and maybe it is reality.
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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (8:27 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 15, 2009 8:23 am)

Well in the "reality analysis" , it really doesn't matter much HOW they got there other than,... they are there !!??
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Re: What can be done about [snakeweasel] by oldfarmer50
Jul 15, 2009 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 15, 2009 4:05 am)

"...just because they turn on their turn signal..."
 
In your example those drivers were certainly wrong. The merging driver always has to look out for other traffic. My experience has been a little different recently. When I merge right I signal and then make sure the lane is clear before I move over.
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The other day I was merging right to leave the interstate and a SUV which had been a good 10 car lengths behind me gunned her car and passed on the right. For some reason she wasn't going to let anyone in in front of her. Even if it resulted in an accident. That, I don't understand.
 
As for motorcycles, loud or quiet, I think you're nuts to ride one in traffic. Recently one of our drivers was nearly killed while riding her new bike on the interstate. She'll probably never be able able to drive a bus again. In fact, I've never known anyone who rode a bike and didn't eat pavement sooner or later.
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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by snakeweasel
Jul 15, 2009 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 15, 2009 8:23 am)

usually don't buy the claims that people "didn't hear" the sirens and lights behind them
 
How do you hear lights?
 
But seriously there is a sizable percentage of the population that are deaf to certain frequencies. If the siren is at the frequency that the person is deaf to they will never hear it. That is why you have those two tone sirens and that some emergency vehicles cycle through several sirens.
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Re: What can be done about [snakeweasel] by davethecarnut
Jul 15, 2009 (9:37 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Jul 15, 2009 2:15 pm)

But seriously there is a sizable percentage of the population that are deaf to certain frequencies.
 
Maybe it's these people with the small dogs on their laps??!!
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Re: What can be done about [oldfarmer50] by ponderpoint
Jul 16, 2009 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 15, 2009 8:35 am)

" I was merging right to leave the interstate and a SUV which had been a good 10 car lengths behind me gunned her car and passed on the right. For some reason she wasn't going to let anyone in in front of her. Even if it resulted in an accident. That, I don't understand."
 
Oh, that's nothing new. For lack of a better term call it "lane loss paranoia", plenty of room but the other driver is perceiving that you're cutting them off.
 
Didn't California recently pass a law making this illegal? If somebody is signalling a lane change and there's room - you HAVE to let them in, it's better for traffic capacity. Same thing (kind of) with merge points coming up on construction. They found out you get a LOT better traffic flow if people utilize all lanes to the lane closure point. PA has signs now that say "USE BOTH LANES TO MERGE POINT" followed by "MERGE POINT TAKE TURNS". My wife found the last phrase "take turns" to be comical - almost like it's a sign for preschoolers.....
 
Baltimore has the same thing even without construction. The famous I-70 ends its long trans-American run unceremoniously with the usual "EXPRESSWAY ENDS", if you're taking the north ramp (695) it has signs admonishing drivers to TAKE TURNS at a designated merge point.
 
Of course, it's ignored.... Unless a cop just happens to be sitting there - then everybody is downright "church social best behavior" mode.
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Re: What can be done about [ponderpoint] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2009 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: ponderpoint (Jul 16, 2009 6:10 am)

Your last sentence is probably the best answer and usually a cop being there is the MOST remote. They like to hide out (plain non line of sight) of the way to pursue customer service.... aka, revenue enhancement.
 
Here is a link. 2009 CA dmv drivers manual If you can find the reference please cite.
 
Here is a reference page 40,
 
..."Space to Merge
Enter the freeway at or near the speed
of traffic. (Remember that the maximum
speed allowed is 65 mph on
most freeways.) Do not stop before
merging with freeway traffic unless
absolutely necessary. Freeway
traffic has the right-of-way
."... (my sic, bold and larger font)
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Re: What can be done about [davethecarnut] by british_rover
Jul 16, 2009 (7:50 am)
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Replying to: davethecarnut (Jul 15, 2009 9:37 pm)

My wife is 60 percent deaf in one ear and 95% in the other. She can't hear most high pitched noises like sirens, smoke alarms, oven timers, annoying high pitched voices, etc.
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Re: What can be done about [british_rover] by ruking1
Jul 16, 2009 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Jul 16, 2009 7:50 am)

While we are sorry to hear that, long gone are the days of hand signals from car drivers. (yes, some to most folks don't signal at all) I remember getting my license using these archaic conventions. Now a days folks used hand signals might be sending an invitation for a drive by shooting !!??
 
The nexus of course is car drivers used to be semi in touch with the environment. If anything the emphasis and technology is to insulate us. So truly driving has been and probably will remain primarily a visual experience.

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