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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by imidazol97
Jul 14, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 11:26 am)

Some of the motorcycles don't have their headlights aimed correctly to not blind oncoming drivers. I think they aim them to benefit the motorcyclist's field of light.
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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by oldfarmer50
Jul 15, 2009 (2:02 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 13, 2009 11:26 am)

"...it just makes them more visible..."
 
That's the argument for loud pipes also. To get people to notice you so they don't hit you. Both are annoying but people simply don't notice motorcycles.
 
While I'm at it, here's a question. When did they change the rules of the road to say that when you see someone in the left lane signal to merge right, you gun your car and pass them on the right blaring your horn? They must have changed the rules because everybody does this now.
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Re: What can be done about [oldfarmer50] by snakeweasel
Jul 15, 2009 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 15, 2009 2:02 am)

Both are annoying but people simply don't notice motorcycles.
 
My beef about motorcycles is that many of them drive like they are the owners of the road and we are just in their way. I can't tell you the number of times I have seen motorcyclists passing between cars, passing cars in the right lane at a stop light on the right and many other stupid maneuvers. At times I wonder how people can sometimes see them until its to late.
 
When did they change the rules of the road....
 
The flip side of that is those people who think that just because they turn on their signal they immediately have the right to occupy the lane they want to merge into. As I was driving back home from vacation last weekend I was on the Interstate doing about 80 in a 75. I was about to pass someone doing 60-65 at the very last second turn on his left turn signal and merged right infront of me, I had to quickly merge right to keep from hitting him.
 
Another example was a year and a half ago I got into an accident, someone I was passing when I was passing him used his signal and immediately merged left. Even though I hit the brakes and utilized the left turn lane in an attempt to avoid him we still made contact. Then this idiot tried to blame me because I saw his turn signal.
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Re: What can be done about [oldfarmer50] by fintail
Jul 15, 2009 (6:31 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 15, 2009 2:02 am)

I think at speed the loudness isn't a good excuse...when you are also in a car at speed, it is mostly drowned out. Around here anyway, the riders of certain loud bikes seem to be more into making pedestrians know they are there (while wearing dopey fake German helmets and somewhat ironic expensive cliched black leather) than trying to be visible to motorists. Very inconsiderate in that it is annoying, but it can be fun to mock at the same time
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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (6:46 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 15, 2009 6:31 am)

Yes, actually the experience with police cars are a PRIME example !! The colors are designed to be noticed. They has special purpose lights DESIGNED to get your attention, sirens, PA systems, etc. You really hear ALL the time that folks do not hear, see, notice, fully coded police vehicles. An untold percentage of people experience unnecessary or unneeded felony stops because of it. The same is true with even bigger and noisier fire trucks !!
 
Another is I have long since stopped counting the number of and times motorcycle drivers have split lanes with me. Yet, when you split lanes with them, for some reason they get PO'd to the max???
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Re: What can be done about [fintail] by xrunner2
Jul 15, 2009 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 15, 2009 6:31 am)

Around here anyway, the riders of certain loud bikes seem to be more into making pedestrians know they are there (while wearing dopey fake German helmets and somewhat ironic expensive cliched black leather) than trying to be visible to motorists
 
These types maybe straining for attention. Best measure is not to look at them, ignore.
 
Can understand noise making of little kids on bikes with playing cards making noise on spokes, or teens of yore putting on glass packs on V8 cars. After age 21, seems like major noise makers are some motorcyle drivers and July 4th adults who set firecrackers or aerial bombs.
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Death Rate Epidemic or so claims the NHTSA... by ruking1
Jul 15, 2009 (7:25 am)
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PG 11 start
 
At a time when the fatality and accident rates are literally the best (SAFEST) since they started keeping the records, the "murder" cycle community is experiencing an almost factorial growth in accidents and fatalities.
 
..."Overall Traffic Fatalities Reach Record Low in 2008
The number of overall traffic fatalities reported in 2008 hit the lowest level since 1961 and fatalities in the first three months of 2009 continue to decrease. The fatality rate, which accounts for variables like fewer miles traveled, also reached the lowest level ever recorded. These encouraging numbers were announced by Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood on July 2. The '08 highway death count was 37,261, a drop of 9.7 percent from '07, while the '08 fatality rate was 1.27, about 7 percent below the rate of 1.36 for '07.
Read the News Release l 2008 Fatality Figures
Detailed 2008 State-by-State Data l Preliminary 2009 First-Quarter Estimates"...
 
link title
 
side bar: PG 40, the new registered vehicles 2007 figures are 255.748 M
 
  
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Re: What can be done about [xrunner2] by ponderpoint
Jul 15, 2009 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 15, 2009 6:55 am)

These types maybe straining for attention. Best measure is not to look at them, ignore.
  
Can understand noise making of little kids on bikes with playing cards making noise on spokes, or teens of yore putting on glass packs on V8 cars. After age 21, seems like major noise makers are some motorcycle drivers and July 4th adults who set firecrackers or aerial bombs.

 
Bingo. You're dead on right.
 
I have been an avid motorcyclist for years, the first exposure necessitated by the economy afforded by a gas-sipping Honda. I have never required noise or lights and by preference, would like less "fanfare". My brother is the same way, would rather be riding than comparing chrome accessories and socializing at the local hot spot with the "square tire" peacocks.
 
There's nothing wrong with socializing, I believe it is good for humans to interact but the past couple of decades has turned motorcycles into an inadvertent "stage show" that is more garish and less about "the ride". Bad dude biker on the week-end, certified public accountant during the week.
 
It's the same as watching a Ferrari make its way down the beach front Blvd. in Fort Lauderdale - that car was meant for open rural road and road courses, not a "peacock walk" down the strip - what a waste.
 
Noise and lights, don't be fooled - even though there's a reasonable chance it's a long time experienced rider, it's probably not - use a LOT of caution around them.
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Re: What can be done about [ponderpoint] by fintail
Jul 15, 2009 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: ponderpoint (Jul 15, 2009 7:45 am)

I have make a similar joke in the past...the self-proclaimed rebel on his loud cruiser on Sunday drives a beige Camry to his miled mannered office job on weekdays. Not the most convincing show.
 
I think a certain generation watched too many of those terrible biker-gang movies in the late 60s and 70s...certainly a factor in why motorcycle casualties have skyrocketed.
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Re: What can be done about [xrunner2] by fintail
Jul 15, 2009 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 15, 2009 6:55 am)

Some of them are the same who buy jacked up diesel trucks with loud exhausts...the connections are easy to make.
 
First thing I did to my first car, a 66 Galaxie, was to put a loud exhaust on it

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