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This ever happer to you? by oldfarmer50
Jul 05, 2009 (2:09 pm)
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I thought I knew the rules of the road but I'm not so sure anymore.
 
I remember being taught that when you are making a left turn and there is a median used for this purpose you are supose to turn into the median and slow down immeadiatly. When traffic allows you my then complete your left. You should travel only the minimum distance in the median that is required to slow for the turn. You can't use the median/turning lane as a driving lane.
 
Twice in the past week people have done things that make me doubt my training.
 
First I was turning left to go into my work place. I noticed a minivan riding in the median for such a distance that I assumed that it was turning left way before I was. Later at work a co-worker came up to me and said I cut her off. I said if she was planning on making a left turn in the median she should not have been driving for a half mile in the median before she did. She seemed to think that driving for a long distance at the speed limit down the median was just fine.
 
A few days later I was preparing to make a left turn off a 4-lane highway that had a median/turn lane in the middle. I usually signal and about 100-200 feet before the turn merge into the median/turn lane. Just enough space to come to a stop if traffic is coming the other way.
 
This time I see a car traveling towards me, from the opposite direction, in the median signaling for a left also. He was maybe a half mile up the road traveling the speed limit. There were many side streets he could have turned into and I assumed he would take one of these. I started to move into the median/turn lane to make my left.
 
To my shock, this guy continues to come straight at me at full speed causing me to swerve back into the travel lane. He blew past me and continued another 500 feet down the road and made his left.
 
Now I have to ask, were these people inconsiderate drivers or have I been misunderstanding the rules all this time?
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Re: This ever happer to you? [oldfarmer50] by ruking1
Jul 05, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 05, 2009 2:09 pm)

I'm sure it is similar in most states,(or should I say I personally have treated the similar situations, similarly) but here is a CA state vehicle code reference to the situation.
 
..."center left turn lanes
A center left turn lane is in the
middle of a two-way street and is
marked on both sides by two painted
lines. The inner line is broken and
the outer line is solid. If a street has
a center left turn lane, you must use it when you
turn left (CVC §21460.5[c]) or start
a permitted U-turn. You may only
drive for 200 feet in the center left
turn lane.
This lane is not a regular
traffic lane or a passing lane. To
turn left from this lane, signal and
drive completely inside the center
left turn lane. Do not stop with the
back of your vehicle blocking traffic.
Make sure the lane is clear in both
directions and then turn only when
it is safe. Look for vehicles coming
toward you in the same lane to start
their left turn..."...
 
pg 27, 39/100
 
link title
 
Your state's v/c would obviously take precedence.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Jul 05, 2009 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 05, 2009 2:20 pm)

A friend of mine got a ticket for driving in the middle turn lane here a couple of years ago. He was under the impression it was for merging, no matter how far you had to go to get a break in traffic.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [steve_] by ruking1
Jul 05, 2009 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 05, 2009 2:23 pm)

Indeed for safety's sake you would not want folks to labor under false impressions of what the lane is REALLY for, and because of DANGEROUS false impressions, do a head on collision.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [steve_] by fintail
Jul 05, 2009 (3:19 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 05, 2009 2:23 pm)

I see that happening around here all the time, especially in areas where our beloved public sector fails to implement effective traffic controls, so cars from side streets have to make a left turn a two-step process.
 
In the sticks where I spent my weekend, people also like to use street parking areas as turn lanes (luckily when no cars are parked there)...they will get into the parking lane about 1/3 block before their turn, and complete it as normal
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Re: This ever happer to you? [ruking1] by oldfarmer50
Jul 06, 2009 (2:27 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jul 05, 2009 2:20 pm)

"...You may only drive for 200 feet..."
 
Thank you for confirming that I have not lost my mind...yet.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [steve_] by oldfarmer50
Jul 06, 2009 (2:30 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 05, 2009 2:23 pm)

"...He was under the impression it was for merging..."
 
I see that a lot too. People trying to merge and driving along side of you in the median.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [fintail] by oldfarmer50
Jul 06, 2009 (2:35 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 05, 2009 3:19 pm)

"...people also like to use street parking areas as turn lanes..."
 
To make a right on red without stopping right? I see that often around here where they use the shoulder to pass a dozen or more cars on the right and then blast around the corner without stopping.
 
I see more and more examples of people using "lazy" driving habits.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [oldfarmer50] by fintail
Jul 06, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jul 06, 2009 2:35 am)

Nope, at uncontrolled intersections, usually where a 30mph thoroughfare turns onto a residential side street. They seem to think because there is a line, it must be a lane. They also complete turns at an average of 4mph. Must be nice having nowhere to go and all day to get there.
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Re: This ever happer to you? [fintail] by euphonium
Jul 06, 2009 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 06, 2009 9:19 am)

With a cup of steeming hot coffee between their legs, all men will turn slowly to protect Big Jim and the twins from being scalded.

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