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Re: didn't see this one... [steve_] by xrunner2
Jan 16, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 9:14 am)

Tire Rack mentions thatnew tires sometimes have oils on the tread/sidewall. First time I ever noticed this about 7 years ago after getting a new set of :Pirellis installed. Did research on this Pirelli model and Tire Rack customer feedback was mostly favorable for dry or wet cornering, braking.
 
Day I got tires installed it rained as I was leaving tire dealer. We had had recent rains in area, so streets were pretty clean of oil residue.
 
Within one block of leaving tire dealer, I realized something goofy about tires in traction giving very dangerous handling, stopping. Apparently, oils used in manufacturing process were on the tires. Drove home very carefully, then waited till next day (dry) to drive it again. When next rain came some days later, there was no problem in traction in that lots of dry driving, heat generated, etc, got rid of oil.
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by tallman1
Jan 16, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 8:55 am)

So in light of that link what was XWESX originally asking??
 
Wes said that he had never heard about breaking in a new set of tires. He was asking what that meant. The article that Steve linked did a good job of explaining it.
 
I remember hearing about taking care not to corner too sharply while the tires "seated" themselves but when I asked an installer about that several years ago, he said not to worry, just drive. The oil issue makes sense and I always take it easy when I first get tires anyway.
 
I've never heard about needing to keep the speed down though, although I don't drive at very high speeds anyway.
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Re: didn't see this one... [tallman1] by xwesx
Jan 16, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jan 16, 2009 11:17 am)

Yes, basically. I know that new tires can be squirrelly due to the residues on them, but I was not aware of a specific procedure to break in a tire. I was thinking of it in regard to a typical "break-in" process, whereby following a given procedure is intended to result in an optimal service life; for example, breaking-in an engine/vehicle. In that context, the thought of breaking-in a tire was foreign to me.
 
-Wes-
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by jensad
Jan 16, 2009 (1:10 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 5:39 am)

I agree with you ruking1 as to the lack of CHP on the roadways. We drove to the High Desert to pick up our 9 week old puppy. Going down I 5, from Concord Ca., we were being passed at 80 + mph and we did not see a unit until the Wheler Ridge, i.e. the "grapevine". I know if I was working the freeway and was not seen on my area of coverage they bosses would ask "where were you". And that is a fair question.
 
Going east from Gorman a unit tried to clock me but at 58 mph in a 55 zone was not worth it for the officer. Still crazy to drive the grapevine as it always has winds, and drivers who don't have a clue but are out there at 80 +.
 
I can image at 45-50 mph, it must have been an experience to have a 60000 or 80000 pound big rig come up and pass you!!!
 
Good luck to everyone and stay safe.
 
jensad
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saw the results of an accident today by snakeweasel
Jan 16, 2009 (3:04 pm)
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Five cars in a row in the left lane. First car didn't appear to have any damage, second car had a pretty messed up rear end, third car had a very messed up front end, fourth and fifth car seemed undamaged (might have just stopped to offer assistance). So apparently the third car struck the second car in the rear at a rather high rate of speed. This same third car was covered with a thick (maybe a foot) coating of snow. While we have had a lot of snow in the last week we have had none in two or three days.
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Re: didn't see this one... [xwesx] by davethecarnut
Jan 16, 2009 (9:43 pm)
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 16, 2009 12:54 pm)

When my truck was new, I had to break in the cup holder. First week with 12oz cans only...then worked up to the Bladder Buster 64 from my local 7-11.
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Re: didn't see this one... [tallman1] by ruking1
Jan 17, 2009 (1:13 am)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jan 16, 2009 11:17 am)

Right, What I said comes right out of owners manuals. So if your owners manual has it and you want to ignore it, it is your car. If your doesn't have it and you want to follow it anyway again, it is your car. So for example, I can make no representation for what owners manuals on cars say or do not say, which I do not have, hopefully for obvious reasons. So here are some snippets.
 
..."Breaking in new tires and brake pads. New tires should be broken in carefully for the first 350 miles (560 km)" . ...
 
So for example Good Year LS-H's were run for 112,000 miles with 38 psi front and rear and 10,000 mile rotations and alignment was not needed. Is that a guarantee ALL similar tires will get 112,000 miles ?? Absolutely NOT !!! It is common sense that a gradual to slow tire break in break in, can and does aid in longer tire life, even as if the manual says dont exceed .75 of the speedometer reading of 160 mph or 120 miles per hour, during the first 600 miles of engine break in. Another logical question would be do the tire manufactures want you to buy new tires at say 112,000 mile interval or at FAR more frequent intervals? Now since the tire is H rated or 130 mph by inference, they are good to go to 92.3% of max rated speed.
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by oregonboy
Jan 17, 2009 (5:46 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 17, 2009 1:13 am)

Ruking, I mean no disrespect, but could you please proof-read your messages before you post?
 
Sometimes it hurts my brain to try to make sense of what you write.
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Re: didn't see this one... [oregonboy] by ruking1
Jan 17, 2009 (5:51 pm)
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Replying to: oregonboy (Jan 17, 2009 5:46 pm)

Too many concepts eh?
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by euphonium
Jan 19, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 17, 2009 5:51 pm)

Punctuation, sentence structure, & logic need a lot of proofreading Ruking.

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