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Re: didn't see this one... [imidazol97] by 210delray
Jan 13, 2009 (7:23 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 13, 2009 7:18 pm)

Just what you needed to whet your appetites!
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Re: didn't see this one... [imidazol97] by ruking1
Jan 16, 2009 (5:39 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 13, 2009 7:18 pm)

I hope that is not what they mean when they say "in hog heaven, or living high on the hog!! "
 
You guys better stop !! You are going to make me look at pork products in a different light !
 
I have been break in two new sets of tires. It was time to change out an oem set with 112,000 miles. It was a catch 22 situation as the set is going on its 6/7 year, yet still serviceable, but I had bought a set (times ticking off the 6 years on it) because most folks having that oem tire said they got 50,000 miles TOPS out of them. Anyhow since I bought them before the 30% price rise, they are not a bad deal.
 
To the point of the topic of the thread, I have been taking to the roads in the SLOW lane doing the 300 miles to 600 miles break in gig. Tis a brave new world doing 40-55 miles per hour on highways where even the highway patrol doesn't ticket 80-90 mph. I do have to say most see me coming up fast and pass. So in that sense, going this slow is a pretty cool experience, once you get past the fact that literally EVERYONE is going by and passing you. For my .02 cents compared to watching paint dry, breaking in tires is soooooooooooooooooo slow as to making watching paint dry an adrenaline sport !
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by xwesx
Jan 16, 2009 (8:20 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 5:39 am)

Please explain the process of "breaking in" tires. I have not heard of anyone doing that before....
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Re: didn't see this one... [xwesx] by ruking1
Jan 16, 2009 (8:36 am)
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Replying to: xwesx (Jan 16, 2009 8:20 am)

I am not sure I understand the question? This has been standard operating procedure for longer than I have been driving? However I do know a lot of folks do not follow it. It is covered in tire oems literature and also vehicle oem owners manuals. Or am I missing what you really are asking?
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Jan 16, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 8:36 am)

I don't follow any set procedure when I get new tires either, but then again, I'm not doing burn-outs or otherwise driving like an idiot most of the time.
 
Breaking In Your Tires
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Re: didn't see this one... [steve_] by ruking1
Jan 16, 2009 (8:55 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 8:47 am)

And to think tire break in used to be easy !!!!!! For folks who like to cut to the chase Steve's www.tirerack.com link lists A-Z a min of 35 related subject articles !!!!
 
Since I have not read ALL those articles and sub linked articles elaborating on the sublinks.... , to use an old flint lock musket analogy: I hope I am not going off half cocked? Wonder if they have an article on how to get more than 112,000 miles on an el cheapo oem tire set??....
 
So in light of that link what was XWESX originally asking??
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Jan 16, 2009 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 8:55 am)

I skimmed most of the tire tech topics at Tire Rack and the only street tires that require you to go slow during the break-in are studded tires. Tires for racing are a different breed, but so long as you don't exceed the speed rating of the tire, I don't see anything at Tire Rack that says to drive 40 to 50 mph on the Interstate for the first 600 miles of ownership.
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Re: didn't see this one... [steve_] by xrunner2
Jan 16, 2009 (10:51 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2009 9:14 am)

Tire Rack mentions thatnew tires sometimes have oils on the tread/sidewall. First time I ever noticed this about 7 years ago after getting a new set of :Pirellis installed. Did research on this Pirelli model and Tire Rack customer feedback was mostly favorable for dry or wet cornering, braking.
 
Day I got tires installed it rained as I was leaving tire dealer. We had had recent rains in area, so streets were pretty clean of oil residue.
 
Within one block of leaving tire dealer, I realized something goofy about tires in traction giving very dangerous handling, stopping. Apparently, oils used in manufacturing process were on the tires. Drove home very carefully, then waited till next day (dry) to drive it again. When next rain came some days later, there was no problem in traction in that lots of dry driving, heat generated, etc, got rid of oil.
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Re: didn't see this one... [ruking1] by tallman1
Jan 16, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Jan 16, 2009 8:55 am)

So in light of that link what was XWESX originally asking??
 
Wes said that he had never heard about breaking in a new set of tires. He was asking what that meant. The article that Steve linked did a good job of explaining it.
 
I remember hearing about taking care not to corner too sharply while the tires "seated" themselves but when I asked an installer about that several years ago, he said not to worry, just drive. The oil issue makes sense and I always take it easy when I first get tires anyway.
 
I've never heard about needing to keep the speed down though, although I don't drive at very high speeds anyway.
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Re: didn't see this one... [tallman1] by xwesx
Jan 16, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: tallman1 (Jan 16, 2009 11:17 am)

Yes, basically. I know that new tires can be squirrelly due to the residues on them, but I was not aware of a specific procedure to break in a tire. I was thinking of it in regard to a typical "break-in" process, whereby following a given procedure is intended to result in an optimal service life; for example, breaking-in an engine/vehicle. In that context, the thought of breaking-in a tire was foreign to me.
 
-Wes-

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