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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [snakeweasel] by jensad
Dec 28, 2008 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 27, 2008 7:30 am)

Dear snakeweasel
 
My compliments to you for your assistance to that Porsche driver. Not many people would have stopped and check the driver to make sure that driver was ok and then calling the authorities.
 
Its nice to read good stories of people that care enough to help others. I did not see it much but I always made it a point to compliment the person(s) that helps us at t/c scenes.
 
Good luck to all and stay safe.
 
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [jensad] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: jensad (Dec 28, 2008 8:39 pm)

Indeed !
 
Just be glad you are not in CA ! The CA Supreme Court has green lighted (set precedence for) increased lawsuits against so called "Good Samaritan Acts".
 
Fortunately or unfortunately for automotive related issues: as goes CA so goes the other 49 states.
 
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 29, 2008 11:11 am)

The rest of the story that I heard is that they were out late partying and the drunk friend freaked and drug the driver out of the car instead of waiting for the paramedic. Paraplegia was the result.
 
And it wasn't like the car was on fire or anything.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 11:16 am)

The issue is NOT the individual merits of the case. THAT could have easily been solved/resolved at the court/case level. The issue is PRECEDENCE and wider spread applications there OF.
 
CHILLING comes to mind.
 
ANYBODY contemplating such actions should really check with their CAR insurance companies and other liability policies; as they are the usual suspects, if you are sued for automotive "Good Sam" actions. Good Sam might turn out to be the likes of New Yorkers in apartment houses hearing seeing and witnessing someone getting slaughtered and doing the three monkeys imitations: hear see speak (no evil) NADA.
 
Bottom line is you can NOT get sued for doing NADA. As those New Yorkers can tell you.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 29, 2008 11:23 am)

"there are "triable issues whether Torti rendered, or actually and reasonably believed she was rendering, 'emergency care at the scene of an emergency.'
 
The case goes back to the trial court for further proceedings.
 
"If it's not an emergency that requires quick thinking to avoid serious injury," Perrochet said, "then one should apply the regular rule that if you offer aid you'd better be doing it non-negligently."
 
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I think this case is going to get bent out of shape about as bad as the McDonald's coffee one did.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 11:26 am)

So ambulance chasing is a good source of revenue!? I truly chose the wrong profession !!
 
The way I read the legal blog is that unless one is a professional ( ER doctor going to work the time one come up on incident, paramedic, etc) and have legal advice and financial liability coverage and updated training for that particular proceedure, proper tools and equipment, logistical back up.... and, and, and...... one direly risks financial health and welfare ! Forewarned is truly fore armed. One's insurance company MIGHT not take too kindly paying for one's "good deeds".
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (12:45 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 29, 2008 12:25 pm)

My RN ski buddy would evaluate but wait for 911 to arrive, absent some impending doom scenario. He's been that way for at least a decade.
 
Good blurb at Wiki Answers. In the California case, I think the reckless part is the issue.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 12:45 pm)

Actually your post backs up EXACTLY (the principle) what I said in the post prior !!! I just put a graphic to it! ? They use the word/s "rescuer". That to me IS the (trained as rescuer) actual doctor, paramedic, fireman, law enforcement, etc. "Joe/Jill Sixpack" is specifically NOT addressed, even as Joe/Jill Six pack can be under a mistaken notion their aid is covered. . So for example if one happens to be: i.e., your off duty RN/ski buddy, paramedic,doctor, fireman, law enforcement, again forewarned is forearmed.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [jensad] by jipster
Dec 29, 2008 (1:12 pm)
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Replying to: jensad (Dec 28, 2008 8:39 pm)

Not many people would have stopped and check the driver to make sure that driver was ok and then calling the authorities.
 
Stop to check, but keep an alert and watchful eye that some other Bozo doesn't take the turn to fast, slide off the road and run you over. I've seen it happen before... on t.v.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [jipster] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: jipster (Dec 29, 2008 1:12 pm)

I even think "non essential" i.e., speeding ticket stops should be taken off a major highway for the completion of the paperwork. The stopped and the stopper are at substantial and elevated risk, even as the situation may dictate the chances are REMOTE.

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