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Re: . [hammerhead] by fintail
Dec 21, 2008 (12:33 pm)
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Replying to: hammerhead (Dec 21, 2008 12:04 pm)

Or they never knew how to drive in the winter at all
 
Yesterday I saw a late model A4 in a ditch - window down, which seemed odd as it was snowing. We got a few inches of snow and about a quarter inch of freezing rain last night, now it is snowing again. The plow has been on my hill a couple times today, and I think they de-iced it too...I can see a little pavement.
 
View from my office window yesterday...something inconsiderate must have happened here...road at the top is I-90
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HO ! HO ! HO ! M/C by ruking1
Dec 26, 2008 (9:30 am)
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Returning from XMAS Dinner, we passed a local municipalities' patrol car (light array working) who had pulled over a car and seemingly, doing some writing. He was dressed in his (normal) uniform with a HUGE flowing red/white Santa Stocking Cap !!! HO HO HO MERRY CHRISTMAS !! Every one
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Re: HO ! HO ! HO ! M/C [ruking1] by jensad
Dec 26, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 26, 2008 9:30 am)

I wonder ruking1, was the engine composed of reindeer, or horses? Peace and prosperity to all in the new year. I hope we all enjoy an excellent year.
 
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A few observations from a trip yesterday by snakeweasel
Dec 27, 2008 (7:30 am)
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Went downstate yesterday to visit a friend. Overnight we had freezing rain but had warmed up by the time I left and while the roads were not great they weren't terrible. Saw about 10-12 cars in the ditch, all but one was 4WD/AWD.
 
At one point a van came up behind me, moved over to the left to pass then just sat there for a minute before moving back into the right lane and kept pace with me (my speed remained constant). As he was following me I happened to come up on someone and moved to pass, but since there was traffic coming up behind me and I was barely going faster than the car I was passing I speed up to make a faster pass and left the van well behind. Well the van did the same thing, came up behind me, moved over as if to pass, matched my speed then moved over to the right lane and paced me.
 
As I was approaching my exit the road not only was now just wet it was actually starting to dry out. But eyeing the exit/entrance ramps I noticed that they were still pretty crappy. So as I approached my exit which had a pretty nice turn on it as it exited and the crossed over the interstate I slowed down long before the exit because I suspected it was slippery. Well it was slippery and as I was slowly approaching the exit a Porsche SUV shot pass me got on the exit ramp took that turn and slid right off the road and down an embankment. I stopped to check on the guy, he was ok, and called the state police and went on my way.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [snakeweasel] by jensad
Dec 28, 2008 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: snakeweasel (Dec 27, 2008 7:30 am)

Dear snakeweasel
 
My compliments to you for your assistance to that Porsche driver. Not many people would have stopped and check the driver to make sure that driver was ok and then calling the authorities.
 
Its nice to read good stories of people that care enough to help others. I did not see it much but I always made it a point to compliment the person(s) that helps us at t/c scenes.
 
Good luck to all and stay safe.
 
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [jensad] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (11:11 am)
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Replying to: jensad (Dec 28, 2008 8:39 pm)

Indeed !
 
Just be glad you are not in CA ! The CA Supreme Court has green lighted (set precedence for) increased lawsuits against so called "Good Samaritan Acts".
 
Fortunately or unfortunately for automotive related issues: as goes CA so goes the other 49 states.
 
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (11:16 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 29, 2008 11:11 am)

The rest of the story that I heard is that they were out late partying and the drunk friend freaked and drug the driver out of the car instead of waiting for the paramedic. Paraplegia was the result.
 
And it wasn't like the car was on fire or anything.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 11:16 am)

The issue is NOT the individual merits of the case. THAT could have easily been solved/resolved at the court/case level. The issue is PRECEDENCE and wider spread applications there OF.
 
CHILLING comes to mind.
 
ANYBODY contemplating such actions should really check with their CAR insurance companies and other liability policies; as they are the usual suspects, if you are sued for automotive "Good Sam" actions. Good Sam might turn out to be the likes of New Yorkers in apartment houses hearing seeing and witnessing someone getting slaughtered and doing the three monkeys imitations: hear see speak (no evil) NADA.
 
Bottom line is you can NOT get sued for doing NADA. As those New Yorkers can tell you.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [ruking1] by steve_ HOST
Dec 29, 2008 (11:26 am)
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Replying to: ruking1 (Dec 29, 2008 11:23 am)

"there are "triable issues whether Torti rendered, or actually and reasonably believed she was rendering, 'emergency care at the scene of an emergency.'
 
The case goes back to the trial court for further proceedings.
 
"If it's not an emergency that requires quick thinking to avoid serious injury," Perrochet said, "then one should apply the regular rule that if you offer aid you'd better be doing it non-negligently."
 
law.com
 
I think this case is going to get bent out of shape about as bad as the McDonald's coffee one did.
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Re: A few observations from a trip yesterday [steve_] by ruking1
Dec 29, 2008 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2008 11:26 am)

So ambulance chasing is a good source of revenue!? I truly chose the wrong profession !!
 
The way I read the legal blog is that unless one is a professional ( ER doctor going to work the time one come up on incident, paramedic, etc) and have legal advice and financial liability coverage and updated training for that particular proceedure, proper tools and equipment, logistical back up.... and, and, and...... one direly risks financial health and welfare ! Forewarned is truly fore armed. One's insurance company MIGHT not take too kindly paying for one's "good deeds".

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