Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

21741 messages,  Last post on May 21, 2013 at 4:39 AM

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#21732 of 21741 Re: . [ronsteve] by fintail

May 16, 2013 (6:43 pm)

Replying to: ronsteve (May 16, 2013 12:06 pm)
If you watch Top Gear, no doubt you have seen Clarkson pine about Audi replacing BMW for drivers with a certain panache. It's not untrue.
 
Funny that yesterday's commute was torture, today's was a breeze - no real complaints at all. On foot, no crosswalk crowders, but did seem to notice a lot of phone yappers - once again most likely to be in large (and more dangerous to others) vehicles.

#21733 of 21741 The MOST Considerate Drivers by andres3

May 17, 2013 (4:14 pm)

In a change from talking about the inconsiderate, I thought I'd mention the cars that were driven by the best and most considerate drivers outside of an Audi club member driving event.
 
1. Toyota Corolla Sport model on a curvy windy road coming back from Julian towards San Diego. Upper middle almost old aged man kept up an EXCELLENT pace considering his vehicle for a fun weekend twisty run.
 
2. BMW 3 Series on a road going up towards Julian from San Diego. I think it might have been a lady and she kept a very good pace on a fun twisty road.
 
3. Lotus - Had to go almost all out to keep up with this guy, fun times on the best back roads near Palomar Mountain in Southern California.
 
4. Driver over a decade ago in a Mustang that moved forward and over a bit when he realized traffic was coming to a stop for no reason on the freeway and the guy behind him might have taken his eyes off the road for a second or two overtaxing his '03 Accord's meager brakes. The extra car space worked wonders to avoid a minor fender bender.

#21734 of 21741 . by fintail

May 17, 2013 (6:46 pm)

Considerate drivers - hmmm...I am happy when someone simply wakes up and moves into an empty right lane when I come up behind them. Not unusual, really.
 
Nothing really bad on the drive today, but was annoyed by an airhead in a Lexus RX who slowed way down a block before her turn, and then turned at ~3mph. Also saw a woman in a 2010+ S-class, going around a blind corner, fast, wobbly, no visible signal, leaned over into the passenger seat - maybe she spilled her Starbucks. And I want to ride a motorcycle around these simps?

#21735 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [andres3] by jjackson12

May 20, 2013 (11:56 am)

Replying to: andres3 (May 14, 2013 4:49 pm)
Not trying to pick a fight, just gently reminding the LLC that they shouldn't be in the left lane, capped with an exclamation mark of full throttle acceleration as soon as they move right.
 
You could also try flashing your high beams a couple of hundred times.
 
That will teach them a lesson.

#21736 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [jjackson12] by gogogodzilla

May 20, 2013 (3:10 pm)

Replying to: jjackson12 (May 20, 2013 11:56 am)
The lack of repercussions is precisely why so many drive so poorly.
 
I favor cattle-catchers mounted on the front of cars; that way, should someone not recognize the 'slower traffic keep right' ideal... one can simply ram the offending driver off the road (given an appropriate warning, such as a flash of the high-beams, and time to respond).
 
You'd quickly see the errant behavior end, as there would actually *BE* repercussions for doing so. Much in the same way that speeders are pulled over by police, ticketed, and points assessed on their record.

#21737 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [gogogodzilla] by fintail

May 20, 2013 (3:48 pm)

Replying to: gogogodzilla (May 20, 2013 3:10 pm)
A small car-to-car missile or some kind of EMP probe would do the job, too.
 
I was out today, got behind a couple of women in an early 00s STS - so slow. I had to honk to get them to exceed 20. Going downhill, would hit the brakes when they got within 5 of the limit. Would tap the brakes everytime an oncoming car passed by. And the driver didn't even appear to be very old, nor a newbie. Finally turned - signaled two blocks beforehand before rounding the corner at 4mph. Seriously. Why are people like this?

#21738 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [fintail] by andres3

May 20, 2013 (5:35 pm)

Replying to: fintail (May 20, 2013 3:48 pm)
Finally turned - signaled two blocks beforehand before rounding the corner at 4mph. Seriously. Why are people like this?
 
Well, you can start by firing their driving instructor, and firing their DMV driver's license tester.
 
Their trainer should have taught them better, and the driver's license test should fail such shenanigans.
 
Speaking of which, doesn't the DMW usually only require teenagers to spend just 6 hours driving with an instructor in the vehicle? If your an adult suddenly learning how to drive correctly is no longer important and zero hours are required I believe. All you have to do is get lucky and make 25 good guesses on a multiple choice exam, and avoid breaking any obvious laws during a 5 minute drive around the block.

#21739 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [andres3] by hammerhead

May 20, 2013 (5:42 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (May 20, 2013 5:35 pm)
I have 2 kids in Driver's Ed now. 6 hours of instructed drive included in the course, but they must also have a minimum of 50 hours of practice driving (documented by parents) before they qualify for the drive test for their license. Drive tests are now administered by the driving schools, not the DOL. Pass the class, pass the drive test, get your hours in, take all the paperwork to DOL & smile for the camera.

#21740 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [andres3] by fintail

May 20, 2013 (7:08 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (May 20, 2013 5:35 pm)
Yeah, here the testing is privatized - which is probably more efficient, but I bet opens the door for potential shenanigans - ie: spend enough, get a license. I suspect it won't help conditions on the road.
 
And that's right, IIRC at 18, one can simply pass the written and 15 minute driving test, and that's it - you're free to drive an Accent or a Veyron or a 42ft behemoth motorhome. It at least needs to be as difficult as getting a motorcycle endorsement. Those are also privatized now, but from the motorcycle instructors I have met, they won't just pass someone for the hell of it.

#21741 of 21741 Re: Don't come to Jersey [fintail] by steve_ HOST

May 21, 2013 (4:39 am)

Replying to: fintail (May 20, 2013 7:08 pm)
Kids here always seem to flunk at least the first test and often the second, and often for no rhyme or reason.
 
That costs the family another $100 to retest, most of which goes in the tester's pocket. Quite the scam and it really hurts the family when you live in a place where there's no good jobs.
 
My neighbor is retired DMV; back in his day he'd ask the parents if their kid could drive (everybody knows everybody). If Dad say yes, the kid would get the license - no test.
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