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#3 of 1677 by taurus2 Jan 30, 2002 (12:05 pm)
I wouldn't pay over $30,000 for a VW.
#4 of 1677 car will sell by justin Jan 30, 2002 (12:40 pm)
no matter how much it costs. it is finally another option that is sorely needed in that market.
#5 of 1677 by teo Jan 30, 2002 (12:45 pm)
Yep, it will sell when VW cleans up its service and customer support act together.   It puzzles me Dr Piech's idea behind this car. What about Audi? Why compete with Audi?   Dr. Piech's Phaeton is prime example of his usual Mr. Jekill personality.   VW's are nice cars but way far from being truly luxurious high performance machines.
#6 of 1677 by merc1 Jan 30, 2002 (2:06 pm)
I've been waiting for someone to open this issue. This big-bucks VW is just VW's version of the next A8. The main difference being the A8's aluminum construction and it's styling. I think the new SUV is sorely needed for VW and the Passat W8 makes a nice halo car, but that should be it. This 50K+ VW is going to run into serious price resistance, though if it's successful it will hurt Audi. Audi just now hitting it's stride in this country again, now VW is going to make it all murky by offering the same car much less. The Passat is no harm to Audi, but this Phaeton will be. A W12 Phaeton for 70K will make a W12 A8 for 90K a very tough sell.   M
#7 of 1677 by bobbyknight Jan 31, 2002 (6:13 pm)
What is exactly going on with VW? Don't they know they have TWO luxury brands already? I really thought that the Passat W8 was pointless, now I think that the Phaeton is equally pointless. I guess VW's are the hot thing right now, but I don't know why anyone would buy a 70K VW, let alone a 37K one.   Here's a wacky idea, how about keep VW the economic brand and Audi the luxury brand. Is that such radical thinking? I don't honestly think that VW can sell the Phaeton next to a 17K Jetta or Golf. In addition, VW dealers really need an update to compete with some of the gorgeous new Audi, BMW, MB, Lexus, and Infinti dealers. I say if they were really serious about the lux segment, they would have to totally update 50-75% of their dealers.
#8 of 1677 by mlayton694 Feb 01, 2002 (7:39 pm)
I'll say this, this Phaeton looks better than any Audi out there, I say dump Audi and let the snobs (those you need a car to improve their self image and confidence) go elsewhere,   Very happy VW owner
#9 of 1677 by bobbyknight Feb 01, 2002 (7:55 pm)
I think the problem with the phaeton is that its looks are so plain, maybe even LS430 plain. Audi's have flair, their styling is destintive and original, the Phaeton is not. Looks like a bigger Passat (although I like the Passat), but thats not the most exciting design out there.
#10 of 1677 FYI by vwguild Feb 01, 2002 (8:05 pm)
For those who doubt the concept...Bear in mind that this car will come with a variety of PowerPlants, and like the S8 & the A8 will be marketed to a very specific clientele...For a real good look at what VWAG is all about today I would direct your attention to: www.glaesernemanufaktur.de/
#11 of 1677 by mlayton694 Feb 01, 2002 (8:21 pm)
I'll say this, this Phaeton looks better than any Audi out there, I say dump Audi and let the snobs (those you need a car to improve their self image and confidence) go elsewhere,   Very happy VW owner
#12 of 1677 by laithy_74 Feb 01, 2002 (8:27 pm)
I think VW wants to introduce a luxury car mostly to boost sales of its cheaper cars. It is like if the S-class hadn't existed, the C-class sales would have never been so good. VW probably wants to have some of that.

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