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#1662 of 1676 Talked to Phaeton owner at Edmonton McDonalds Restaurant by dieselfitter1 Mar 29, 2009 (9:34 am)
I was motoring around in my '09 SportWagen TDI and spotted a VW Phaeton just as the owner was exiting to go into McDonalds.     His Phaeton has 70,000kms on it(45,000miles). It was a V-8 and I think he said it was an '05. This model cost $100,000 CDN New. He paid $20,000 for it a few months ago!!!!! Seems that resale value is very low on these models,I think......... Replies to this message: bobbusbkr (Mar 29, 2009 10:32 am)
#1663 of 1676 Re: Talked to Phaeton owner at Edmonton McDonalds Restaurant [dieselfitter1] by bobbusbkr Mar 29, 2009 (10:32 am)
Replying to: dieselfitter1 (Mar 29, 2009 9:34 am) Hi Diesel,   I traveled to Wisconsin from Boston in August 2007 to purchase my 2004 Phaeton. It had 19,100 miles. It was VW certified and I purchased the 100,000 Mi. & 5 Yr. Road Hazard warranties. The whole deal with MA Sales Tax cost $40,000.   Fortunately for me, I plan to drive this magnificent vehicle for at least 5 more years so resale value is the least of my worries. I believe the Phaeton is one of the best previously owned automobile buys ever! The only reason I'd change my Phaeton is to trade it on a W12!   GRNDPA Boston, MA
#1667 of 1676 Channging Oil by carrotopp May 20, 2009 (9:43 am)
I need to change the oil in my 2005 Bentley CGT and another user suggested posting here as it has the same engine as the Phaeton. Anybody out there that can help?
#1668 of 1676 PHAETON FACTORY by rlausch May 28, 2009 (1:02 pm)
IN CASE ANY OF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE FILM ON HOW OUR PHAETOPN'S WERE MADE I AM SENDING YOU THE SITE. ITS AMAZING.    http: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd5WGLWNIIA
#1670 of 1676 phaeton and follies by psychoannie Aug 06, 2009 (3:49 pm)
ok, some warnings here: we all have seen icons showing our tire pressure monitoring system is at "fault" or a defective wheel on board icon will pop up--and your place of service will tell you they just had to "reset" the fault. or that the spare tire is flat--no problem. Well, it is a HUGE problem. AUDI's and VW's (and I am on my 4th) have major electrical issues--this is one. Your icons with the pressure will eventually (usually right after your certification or insurance runs out) indicate a total monitoring system fault to the tune of a minimum of $1,000. (without labor) My phaeton has 40,250 miles (04) was insured to its 8th cylinder and so far I have spent over $6,000 on repairs in the past year. That even includes a new windshield which had a defective seal letting water gush in during rains ($1200)--VW will not stand behind anything short of a major fire (had that too). My advice--NEVER, EVER drive or buy a Phaeton without insurance,,,,and a good attorney. And yes, th eonly re-sale value of consequence is finding someone who REALLY wants a phaeton; otherwise, we are talking about $14-17,000 for a car initially costing $60K+. Beware of those icons--they are NOT meaningless!! Beware of the car's certification-IT IS MEANINGLESS, and be mindful of which VW dealer services your car; they can either be your best advocate or your worst enemy. I have had both. Replies to this message: wab3tx (Aug 07, 2009 6:32 am) markhalpern (Aug 07, 2009 11:36 am)
#1671 of 1676 Re: phaeton and follies [psychoannie] by wab3tx Aug 07, 2009 (6:32 am)
Replying to: psychoannie (Aug 06, 2009 3:49 pm) Hello psychoannie and everyone else who is tired of their Phaeton sitting in the garage ! .... I am assuming that name is from owning your Phaeton .... ? ... to the point, we bought our pre-owned 2004 Phaeton W12 from a certified VW dealer in FL, it was the dealership's owner's personal care, I did a lot of research and figured this was the best way to go. I had my first electronic/electrical problem within 1.5 hours of leaving the dealership on my way back to Houston. Since then it has been constant. The Phaeton had a 5 yr / 50k warranty through 4 April 2009, I was having so many electronic problems that we held back driving it to make the mileage last as long as the 5 year warranty. It is now 7 August 2009, 4 months after the warranty expired. The car has 51,142 miles on it and is basically undriveable unless I take her in to the dealer monthly to have the system "reset". IF it is not driven daily, then the computer system starts turning "systems" off. At the present time, it will actually turn itself off while I am driving down the road, unbelieveably dangerous. Most of the time it simply turns itself off at a stoplight, it "waits" 3 - 4 minutes then decides to let us proceed on. We have driven it less than 1,200 miles since March 2009, about 210 miles per month, that is NOTHING in Houston, Texas. We bought our 2004 Phaeton in Dec 2006, it had 17,400 miles on it. My partial list of problems with our 2004 Phaeton W12 is below, ALL maintenance and / or repairs have been done at a Certified VW dealer: - trunk will not open with remote, 'repaired and/or replaced' components - 4 times - system fault reset, at least 4 times - turns itself off, 3 times, not including present situation, which makes 4 times. - alarm does not work, including now ... third time. - transmission fluid pan drips, has been 'repaired' twice, is leaking again now for third time - rear engine seal leaks, has been 'repaired' twice, is leaking again now for the third time - rear battery has been replaced twice, will not hold charge now, needs to be replaced again now ... third time - the car MUST be driven at a minimum every other day, for at least 20 miles, otherwise it starts turning off electronic systems in the car - 'flat tire' light is consistently coming on, the valve antennas have been replaced once. I got it to go off now, by over inflating the tires. Our Phaeton has been IN the VW shop for at least 3.5 months of the 32 months that we have owned her, two of the times were for a month each time. Because VW sold so few here in the USA, they do not have technicians (mechanics) who are capable of working on the Phaeton, especially now that they have not been sold here for several years. When it decides that it wants to go, it is a GREAT car, we love it, but most of the time it doesn't want to go, she is a lot like a cat, when she wants to be stroked, GREAT, when she doesn't want to be stroked ..... LOOK OUT!   I am currently speaking with an attorney who specializes in vehicle lemon law, anybody else want to join us and put together a lawsuit to get some satisfaction? Replies to this message: markhalpern (Aug 07, 2009 11:36 am)

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