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#1651 of 1677 Re: TPMS system failures [w12vw] by markhalpern Jul 19, 2008 (10:35 am)
Replying to: w12vw (Jul 19, 2008 10:07 am) My story is much the same: I bought a 2004 Phaeton in March, and have had trouble with the TPMS ever since; tried two different dealers, neither could fix it. Clearly there's a fundamental flaw in the design or manufacture of the system, and VW should fix it for all of us. But they're not going to do anything unless we force them to, and the only way to do that is to join forces and present them with a group complaint they can't ignore. I invite all Phaeton owners having this problem to indicate that they're ready to do that; if enough of you do so, we can arrange the formation of an owner's group. Replies to this message: ablenav (Jul 19, 2008 11:57 am)
#1652 of 1677 Re: TPMS system failures [w12vw] by ablenav Jul 19, 2008 (11:55 am)
Replying to: w12vw (Jul 19, 2008 10:07 am) You may have tried this idea but for the past year my TPMS has worked by using 49 lbs in all five tires. This pressure is within the tires limits and I have found makes less road noise. The effect of this tactic is that the TPMS doesn't have to work hard as the pressures lower each month and manage the 7lb gap between the front and back. I went to Skip Barbara racing school three times and they recommended doing on our old BMW M6 and it worked great. Hope this helps.
#1653 of 1677 Re: TPMS system failures [markhalpern] PLUS by ablenav Jul 19, 2008 (11:57 am)
Replying to: markhalpern (Jul 19, 2008 10:35 am) I would support the idea of an owners club and then we will have more influence over the preservation of a great car.
#1654 of 1677 Phaeton Owners Group by w12vw Jul 20, 2008 (5:38 am)
Yes, I believe that a group composed of those off us who own these great cars could possible influence VWofA to give more support. As we all know, they seem to have sent all the support to the almost identical Bentley W12 cars. [ No wonder, as the price is so much more for essentially the same car]. Replies to this message: markhalpern (Jul 20, 2008 10:10 am) rlausch (Jul 28, 2008 7:18 am) w12vw (Aug 02, 2008 9:10 am)
#1655 of 1677 Re: Phaeton Owners Group [w12vw] by markhalpern Jul 20, 2008 (10:10 am)
Replying to: w12vw (Jul 20, 2008 5:38 am) To: all Phaeton owners, particularly those with TPMS problems   Clearly there are a number of us with Tire Pressure Monitoring System problems, so many that it's obvious that there's a basic problem with the design and/or manufacture of that system. If we formed an Owner's Club, we'd have much more chance of getting VW of America to recognize it as their problem, and do something about it. I offer to serve as secretary while the club is being formed; if interested, send me basic information about yourself, the Phaeton you own, and your experience with the TPMS (and other problems, if you like). I will collect and organize that information, and reply to each of you. Please send me your information at markhalperniname.com.                               Mark Halpern Replies to this message: rlausch (Jul 28, 2008 7:18 am) w12vw (Aug 02, 2008 9:10 am)
#1656 of 1677 Re: Phaeton Owners Group [markhalpern] by rlausch Jul 28, 2008 (7:18 am)
Replying to: markhalpern (Jul 20, 2008 10:10 am) COUNT ME IN =TPMS      RUDY LAUSCH Replies to this message: w12vw (Aug 02, 2008 9:10 am)
#1657 of 1677 ROUGH RIDE by rlausch Jul 28, 2008 (7:26 am)
JUST BOUGHT A 2005 PHAETON, AND AM TOTALLY DISAPPONTED IN THE RIDE AND ROAD NOISE ANY SUGGESTIONS.   RUDY LAUSCH
#1658 of 1677 Re: Phaeton Owners Club? advice on problems? [markhalpern] by mtmsimple Jul 31, 2008 (1:16 am)
Replying to: markhalpern (Apr 20, 2008 11:29 am) I just fixed my TPMS from Belle Tire with Orange OE sensor, the price is fair and it much cheaper than Original. But i'm still running it since last weekend, will tell everyone the condition later.
#1659 of 1677 Re: Phaeton Owners Group [rlausch] by w12vw Aug 02, 2008 (9:10 am)
Replying to: rlausch (Jul 28, 2008 7:18 am) TPMS is the only real problem with my 2004 W12.
#1660 of 1677 toward a Phaeton Owners' Club, and TPMS by markhalpern Aug 02, 2008 (9:52 am)
I've written to VW of America about wanting to start a Phaeton Owners' Club, and asking for their help. I'll keep after them, and will keep you all informed.      The work done on my car when we met last Sunday did some good -- the false messages are now intermittent rather than constant -- but clearly the problem isn't really solved.      I think we're not likely to see a complete solution until we can get VW of America to face the fact that the TPMS is faulty in design or manufacture, and gets the parent company to put some engineers on it. Forming an Owners' Club is a necessary first step, I think, since we have very little influence on the company as individual owners. A few of you who seemed to be interested in forming such a club have not responded to my last posting here; please let me know one way or the other.                       Mark Halpern

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