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Re: Dropping off the EX-P [edex06]
by cwalti
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Jul 19, 2006 (11:51 pm)
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Replying to: edex06 (Jul 19, 2006 3:16 pm)
You didn't look very far by my definition...
http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2006/element/element_factsheet.pdf
4-Speed Automatic Transmission (Available)
Gear Ratios: 1st: 2.684, 2nd: 1.535, 3rd: 1.081, 4th: 0.733, Reverse: 2.000, Final Drive: 4.438
5-Speed Manual Transmission
Gear Ratios: 1st: 3.533, 2nd: 2.042, 3rd: 1.355, 4th: 1.028, 5th: 0.825, Reverse: 3.583, Final Drive: 4.765
P.S. Shun the worthless dealer who could not give you readily available information...
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Re: Dropping off the EX-P [cwalti]
by edex06
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Jul 20, 2006 (7:23 am)
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Replying to: cwalti (Jul 19, 2006 11:51 pm)
...and you didn't read very closely by my definition. We're discussing the changes to the 2007 model lineup. It has been put forth that the 2007 model lineup will include a 5-speed automatic. One reader presumed this would result in improved mileage and acceleration. I challenged the presumption due to lack of evidence.
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Re: Dropping off the EX-P [edex06]
by cwalti
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Jul 20, 2006 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: edex06 (Jul 20, 2006 7:23 am)
...ooops, sorry, you are correct! While there is no guarantee, it would be likely that the CR-V 5-speed automatic would be installed. The two cars share an identical engine and driveline and a very similar platform. While the CR-Vs 5th gear is a bit longer than the Element's 4th gear, I think the differences are academic and other factors such as driving style, load, tire choice will outweigh the difference. But yes it would be nice. I noticed that my '05 CR-V has a very short first gear, presuably for offroading, but it makes it pretty spiffy off the line at a traffic light. The Element's first gear is substantially longer...
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07 Element 5 speed auto
by extech2
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Jul 20, 2006 (4:24 pm)
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I have no hard data, but generally speaking cars with 5, 6,or 7 speed transmissions give the driver better mileage and improved acceleration. Mercedes doesn't build 7 speed automatics to make their top of the line models slower or to use more gas. A long time ago we had an 82 Civic, 3 speed automatic, it had lousy gas mileage on the freeway and going over 60 mph gave me a headache, I believe the engine RPM was over 4,000 at that speed. Trust me, more gears will help.
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Re: 07 Element 5 speed auto [extech2]
by cwalti
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Jul 20, 2006 (6:10 pm)
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Replying to: extech2 (Jul 20, 2006 4:24 pm)
....of course this is correct, but engine technology has come a long way too with motors that have almost all their torque at 2500 RPM. This too allows for longer gearing. When we consider the speed band we usually drive up to 80 mph. How many speeds can you cram into that... ? OK, I like to go faster too...
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Test drives
by tidester HOST
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Jul 20, 2006 (9:11 pm)
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Anyone test drive an Element recently? Tell us about it here: Honda Element: Test Drives
tidester, host
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Re: Decision: Element vs Subaru Forester [ateixeira]
by lewisinbecket
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Jul 21, 2006 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Jul 10, 2006 10:35 am)
Not sure.. It looked like MY 07.. but that was for Japan, so I imagine that we won't see it until '07 (for our MY 08).
If I find the link, I will post.
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Re: Dropping off the EX-P [1racefan]
by boogie1
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Jul 22, 2006 (1:07 pm)
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Replying to: 1racefan (Jul 18, 2006 4:28 am)
I am waiting to see if they make the seat more comfortable. The seat bottom has a seam with a support wire under it. This wire causes a pain in my butt even in short test rides. If Honda does not address this problem, then I will not buy one. I really like the element, because it has more headroom than any of the other auto's I am looking at. However, I spend a lot of time in my vehicle and I need a really, really, really, really....comfortable seat. My currently auto is an 04 Dodge Durango and that seat is really... comforatable, with no metal edges,wires,lumbar/dumbar,lumps or bumps to cause pain. I know many of you are fine with the seats, butt!!!! I'm not!!! 
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Silly question "butt" .........
by dweiser
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Jul 22, 2006 (4:02 pm)
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You HAVE tried driving more than one Element I ASSume?
Meaning maybe it was a faulty driver's seat in one vehicle. I'm not exactly light and I've never felt it in mine.
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