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#41 of 4704 diploid by robertsmx Mar 27, 2002 (3:45 pm)
Folding flat seats may hinder other feature in the Element, washable and lower flat floor. Seats folding to the sides seems to be okay, Interior - Rear
#42 of 4704 Folding seats by rsholland Mar 27, 2002 (5:15 pm)
The problem with seats that fold up and sideways, like that found on the Element, is that a HUGE blind spot is created, when looking over your right shoulder. It's not a problem with the seat directly behind the driver, but the other seat is a problem.   Bob
#43 of 4704 by diploid Mar 27, 2002 (6:20 pm)
I think that if you needed to load something so huge that it would require the seats to be folded up and onto the sides like that, the item itself would still block your rear view.   At least I hope that's what Honda was thinking because I really hate that feature.
#44 of 4704 by varmint Mar 27, 2002 (6:28 pm)
I wonder if they can be completely removed?
#45 of 4704 by diploid Mar 27, 2002 (9:54 pm)
Another thing I noticed is that the rear doors got smaller. And because of the now more angled shape of the lower part, I doubt the rear windows can roll past 70%.   But yet Honda managed to still make it look somewhat attractive. Did you all see the possible contenders from Nissan and Toyota's Scion division?
#46 of 4704 Dip... by rsholland Mar 28, 2002 (7:49 am)
if you need to put any relatively large item—but not necessarily a tall item—you'll end up with that blind spot, because the seats will need to be folded. Even a bike, while tall, will allow you to see (partially) through the frame.   I've never like those fold up seats (because of the blind spot issue) in the past; still don't.   Bob
#47 of 4704 rear seat by artdecho Mar 28, 2002 (7:52 am)
.....access looks a bit difficult (though maybe not to the target audience), as the seat is well back into the interior....maybe done for side impact scores as the seat resides behind the body of the car, not the (small) door opening. I don't think anyone will be picking up granny and asking her to get herself back in there.
#48 of 4704 re: Blind Spots by dstiny Mar 28, 2002 (9:01 am)
Just use your side view mirrors. Ever drive a panel van? Hopefully, the Element's mirrors will be large enough to offset the absence of windows. Here we have a SUV that can convert to a van without having to store the rear seats in your garage (if you have one). We also get a deep floor because the rear seats don't fold flat (like my Explorer Sport). And, unlike my Explorer, I can hose it out.
#49 of 4704 BLIND SPOTS by anonymous02 Mar 28, 2002 (10:02 am)
Seems that tractor trailer drivers don't have much of a problem working around that.   Why should a driver of a little pug car?
#50 of 4704 Blind spots... by rsholland Mar 28, 2002 (10:36 am)
I didn't say you couldn't live with it, or work around it. It would just be much easier if you didn't have to deal with it in the first place.   Prediction: This blind spot WILL cause more accidents, either in a parking lot, or on the highway. People who buy this car are not going to be experienced in driving a panel van.   Bob

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