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You are in the Honda Element
What is this discussion about?
Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
Mar 16, 2005 (10:47 am)
Put yourself in Honda's shoes. Would you spend a whole lot of money making changes to vehicle that is scheduled to get a complete overhaul one year later? That is why late upgrades are very rare.
If Honda sticks with the 5 year cycle (and there's nothing to suggest that they won't), the Element should get a refresh for the 2006 model year. This refresh should include the curtain style airbags in addition to the seat-mounted backs that are already an option. Those vehicles should hit the lots in November or December of 2005.
Then we will see a 2007 model at the very end of 2006. That will be the last year for the current generation of the Element. The vehicle will only see minimal changes that year - cosmetic stuff.
#3699 of 4724 Re: Upgrade [varmint]
Mar 16, 2005 (2:51 pm)
Thanks again. Makes sense. At least I won't have to wait as long for the curtain air bags. Sounds like they are only about 7-8 months away.
#3700 of 4724 Re: Upgrade [carlr]
Mar 16, 2005 (3:46 pm)
We don't know that the refresh includes side curtain airbags. It may not.
Most likely the refresh will include standard ABS and seat mounted torso airbags (the same ones that are now available as an option), new paint colors, new tail lights, revised grill, bumpers, wheels and seat fabric.
Honda has not promised side curtain airbags on all vehicles until the end of calendar year 2006.
It would be nice if side curtain airbags were to appear on the 2006 Element though, but they have not been promised by Honda.
Mar 16, 2005 (4:12 pm)
Yes, Honda has not promised curtain bags until the end of 2006, but there is no good reason for them to wait that long. Read up a few posts. There are no promises, but it is likely.
#3702 of 4724 Re: 307web [varmint]
Mar 16, 2005 (5:43 pm)
The end of calendar year 2006 happens to coincide with the release of the next Element, so that seemed like a hint.
#3703 of 4724 Re: 307web [307web]
Mar 16, 2005 (9:14 pm)
No, the end of 2007 would coincide with the next Element.
2004 2nd year
2005 3rd year
2007 final year
The resdesign comes in the form of the 2008 model year.
#3704 of 4724 Re: 307web [varmint]
Mar 16, 2005 (9:48 pm)
OK, then I'll look for side curtain airbags, ABS and VSC in the 2006 Element this December.
If it has all that by then, I'll probably go sit in one and test drive it to see if I like the way it drives.
#3705 of 4724 CR-V vs Element
Mar 19, 2005 (3:19 pm)
I was initially interested in the CR-V, but by the news of it there have been reports of CR-V engine fires and PTTR.
Has anyone known of similar incidents in the Elements? I guess they are not exactly identical mechanically, or do they (just in different skin)?
Please advise. Thanks much.
Mar 21, 2005 (9:56 am)
IIRC there was one single Element fire, but that's not enough to establish any sort of pattern. Actually, that low number implies there has not been the same problem.
Mar 21, 2005 (3:48 pm)
The Element (and Accord) are built here in the states. Thus, they are not shipped overseas and not subjected to the same conditions which caused the sticky gasket issue. That is what apparently led to the problems with the CR-V (which is shipped from Japan and the UK).
On PTTR, yes, I believe some Element owners have reported problems.