Last post on Jul 06, 2012 at 5:27 PM
You are in the Honda Element
What is this discussion about?
Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
Oct 05, 2004 (10:15 am)
Honda has stated that all of their SUVs will get standard ABS, VSA, and airbags by the end of the 2006 calendar year. So the Element should be getting that next year.
Essentially, Honda works on a five year plan with their cars. The car is completely redesigned for the first year. Years 2 and 3 will see only minor upgrades based on consumer complaints or adjustments to content because the marketing guys missed a badly needed feature. Year 4 will see a refresh. At four years, the vehicle is getting a little old, and needs some new goods to remain competitive. Year five sees very few changes.
2005 is the 4 year mark for the CR-V. This is the refresh year. The Element gets the scheduled refresh in 2006.
Oct 05, 2004 (10:16 am)
BTW, I also think the Element is a van. It has a flat floor running from front to back. That's a van trait.
Both wagons and SUVs have cabins that ride lower than the engine and cargo area.
Oct 05, 2004 (10:18 am)
It's an SUV.
Suicide-style Utility Vanlet.
PS I'm not much on names, there is a water craft they label as an SUV
Oct 05, 2004 (5:44 pm)
It appears that the main concerns with the Volvo are maintenance costs and premium fuel.
However, I might agree with you when you say two Elements might be impractical if the need to carry lots of stuff or 5 people arise.
However again ... you could do at lot worse than having two Elements when it comes to practicality.
As for the recall scenario, as long as it's not a crippling recall, you could just have one recall at a time performed.
Oct 06, 2004 (10:51 am)
I got mine more specifically for that purpose. I bought it last year when I was still 21. It reminds me of my hatchback I had ( but much larger ) and I was looking along and saying " you know, this would be a great minivan when I decide to start breeding"
I wouldn't want to have to change cars just because of kids and I'm hoping of keep it til it dies.
Might as well- if that mountaineer drive hadn't snapped my leg, I wouldn't have been able to pay cash.
Oct 10, 2004 (4:17 pm)
A friend of mine just dumped a Volvo for that exact reason. It wasn't even unreliable, just that the small stuff cost a fortune to fix.
With kids to haul, I'd get a TSX if you wanted a 2nd Honda product. 4 doors and 5 seats plus it complements the Element better.
#3510 of 4724 Re: Why are manual trannies so scarce? [boomerbubba]
Oct 22, 2004 (3:49 pm)
I don't know if you've already bought your element or where you are but I just listed an 04 LX 5 speed--but fwd--for sale for 15,500. Had a choice. car or house.
Let me know if you are still interested.
#3511 of 4724 Re: Why are manual trannies so scarce? [lbell]
Oct 22, 2004 (3:51 pm)
forgot to mention---5,650 miles
#3512 of 4724 recommended weight
Oct 23, 2004 (7:02 am)
*snicker* I think the recommended towing weight for the Element is 1500lbs.
Um- I overdid it but my baby is still strong.
I have a class 3 hitch and the trailer was at least 900 lbs empty, and then loaded down with lots of boxes of crap. There was luggage sets and an entire bed, cedar chest, dresser stuffed so hard you could barely open the drawers, etc...
And then what all my father crammed in the cargo of the car.
It was tight, it was heavy- and it was 1500 miles through hilly part of the country- DC to East Texas.
I'm getting the oil changed next week.
Oct 24, 2004 (5:17 am)
I'm sure the Element could probably pull way more than the recommended weight. 3,000 lbs might be possible.
But can an Element stop that much weight in an emergency? That's why Honda lawyers are very tight with hauling capacities.