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Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
Aug 10, 2004 (7:32 am)
I own a 2003 EX Element with the 270w stereo and I'd like to upgrade the subsystem. I'm thinking about using the stock deck (since my other deck will not fit) and running a 600w amp to a 500w single 12. Has anyone done something like this? If so, how does it sound? I've tried calling the Honda headquarters to find out what the frequency cutoffs and power distributions were but noone knew.
I also wanted to thank everyone who participates in these discussions. This is the first place I came before buying my Element a year ago and I found everyone's advice very helpful. I love my Element and am convinced that it is the best car available. Period.
Aug 10, 2004 (8:46 am)
I also found the CR-V lacks front leg room. I could not really stretch out my legs like I wanted to. And I'm only 6'.
Oddly the rear seat has almost too much rear legroom. They could move the front seats about 6" farther back and it would still be comfortable for rear seat passengers.
I've sat in an Element but haven't driven one or spent enough time in one to tell if it has the same issue.
Aug 10, 2004 (8:57 am)
I'm 6'4" (34" inseam) and I haven't had any problems with the legroom in the Element. I also sat in the CR-V while shopping around and found it pretty cramped.
Aug 10, 2004 (9:03 am)
Must be roomier, then, if two tall people noticed that.
#3431 of 4724 Re: Element as Family Car
Aug 10, 2004 (10:04 am)
I have an EX AWD 5-speed with two children, 3 and 4. Quite frankly, I don't think the Element would be much fun with infant seats, and depending on your infant/convertible child seat, it could be hard to get the seats stable when facing backwards. I personally am a carseat freak, and would probably never put an infant in the E because I could not put them in the middle. That's just me.
I already have many stains on the seats in the E. I have many stains on the seats in our Ford truck. My opinion is that leather is the best way to go. It's actually easier to keep the seats in our Volvo clean because nothing sticks.
The main drawback of the doors is that the front seatbelts are mounted on the back doors, which means you must not only open the front door, but unbuckle as well.
Now that my kids are old enough to climb in and buckle themselves, entry/exit is no big deal except when they close the doors in the wrong order!
Don't get me wrong, I love the E. We feed our cows out of the back, go muddy places, etc. But I might be trading it if Toyota brings the FJ concept out.
Aug 10, 2004 (4:14 pm)
My husband is 6'6 (38" inseam) and he fit fine in the Element but not-so-fine in the CR-V. Otherwise we might have ended up with a CR-V EX 5-speed.
Since your wife wants an automatic anyways why not keep your Accord and buy an Odyssey/Element/Sienna/etc as a replacement for your Outback? Unless you need the AWD that is.
#3433 of 4724 Drove all the Honda trucks that fit me today
Aug 10, 2004 (6:29 pm)
Thanks for all the thoughtful posts! While I got my Accord serviced, I stayed at the dealer and drove all the Honda trucks that fit (i.e. Element, Odyssey and Pilot).
I must say that although all these trucks had their charms, I did appreciate the handling of my Accord after the test drives.
At this point I will try the Accord for a while when the child arrives later this year and see if he Accord with a stick is a problem. If it works ok, I may just keep the Accord till we outgrow the Subaru and then get a Pilot or Odyssey. If I have an immediate need for another automatic car, I might consider getting an Element.
These are my observations after 3 back to back test drives:
Element – a good around town automatic with good hauling capabilities. A good practical second family car with some fun thrown in.
- rugged and versatile interior
- good space for driver and passengers
- great stereo
- iPod connector
- Lots of useable space for the money
- Tight turning radius
- Fun colors – orange and green. I like the black dash best.
- Automatic is not that bad
- A relaxed driver
- louder engine
- a little under powered
- Interior is lower quality than Accord
Odyssey – a good car for a long trip
- Huge interior space
- smooth ride
- powerful engine
- flexible interior
- Flexible seating
- Great car for long trip
- A car you would keep till it wore out
- A little frumpy
- Not so easy to park
- A car I would like to have access to but not drive every day
Pilot – Awesome truck with power and style but do you want an SUV?
- great smooth and quiet ride
- Neat interior details
- Great exhaust note under acceleration
- Flexible interior
- Not quite as large as Odyssey
- Most expensive
- SUV image
- Not bad on gas but not great
Aug 11, 2004 (6:13 am)
It's good to have one AWD vehicle around in case it snows, depending on where you live. Pick vehicles in your fleet that serve different purposes.
If not, think about it this way - they are redundant.
I have a Miata and a Forester, perfect complement to each other, serving completely different purposes.
So if your Outback is a good trip car, the Element might make a good city car. You might even get away with a FWD model since you have an AWD in your fleet. Very cost effective fleet if you ask me.
The Ody would be a good long distance cruiser, and the Subie would still give you traction in snow and a little more manueverability in town. Perhaps the best combination of all-around utility for your fleet.
A Pilot/Outback fleet might be a little redundant, both serve similar purposes. If you need to seat 7, the Ody is probably better, cheaper, and more fuel efficient. And you'd have 2 AWD vehicles, which might be overkill.
In that case a Pilot/Accord fleet would make more sense to me. But I bet you end up putting more miles on the Accord.
Aug 11, 2004 (7:04 am)
"Pick vehicles in your fleet that serve different purposes."
That's our philosophy. We currently have:
2003 Civic Si hatch: It's the commuter of the group. Good power, decent gas mileage, and small.
2004 Honda Accord EX-L manual: This is the car we drive if one of us is going somewhere with the baby or if we are all three together for a short trip.
2004 Honda Odyssey: This is our vehicle of choice when we are all together. We use it for trips to the grocery store, longer trips around town, and road trips.
1994 Lexus LS400: Okay, I'm not really sure what purpose this car serves even though I ask my husband on a daily basis. We've put 10,000 miles on it in 3 years and it's currently in the basement with a very intricate spider web near the exhaust. He says it will become a family hauler when we can flip the car seat to forward-facing.
Aug 11, 2004 (9:15 am)
The LS is the car you take the opera. If you went the to the opera.
Or the car to cart around your mother-in-law, maybe.