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Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
#331 of 4724 About those front seats again
May 16, 2002 (9:55 pm)
On April 10,2002 canadiandriver.com wrote:
"The four passenger Element has two front buckets separated with ‘walk-through’ access between them, and two rear seats that appear to be a single bench, but are split 50/50. The front passenger seat includes a seatback that reverses so that the front passenger can face the rear seats when the vehicle is stopped."
I wrote in saying looking at the pictures I don't think so. They said it came from Honda Canada press release and would recheck it with Honda.
So today canadiandriver.com wrote back:
Honda Canada sent me this reply about the rear-facing front seat in the Element..
"The concept vehicle "Model X" had front seats that had the seatback flip
towards the front of the car to make a backwards facing seat. The Honda
Element prototype as shown at the New York auto show had more conventional
front seats that did not have this feature. The production version of the
Honda Element is not expected until early 2003, so we will have to wait to
see the "final version"."
CanadianDriver.com - "Canada's Online Auto Magazine"
May 17, 2002 (6:01 am)
Thanks Ropedart. I have doubts about them making production, but it would be very cool.
#333 of 4724 Pilot ignored?
May 19, 2002 (8:39 pm)
I wasn't at the New York Auto show but Popular Mechanics magazine wrote that at the press conference for Honda Pilot and Element that there was huge crowd response to the Element. People were ignoring the Pilot. I am trying to gage the response to the Element in general. People would walk into my cube at work see the Element picture and say "What is that thing?" or "Boy is that ugly!" C&D and Motortrend think it is risky. Edmunds thinks it will be a hit.
May 20, 2002 (8:28 am)
I went to NY and the Pilot was not being ignored, but the Element did seem to have more people around it while I was there.
But this may be because the Element is shocking to look at, while the Pilot is very conservative.
I'm sure the Pilot will sell more units, in fact I have no doubt they'll sell every one they can build.
Pineapples may look wild, but plain apples sell a whole lot better.
#335 of 4724 Is the Stream coming?
May 20, 2002 (9:02 am)
Autonews.com suggest that the Honda Stream may come in 2004. This 7 seven seater car would be a great addition to the Element. The Odyssey is too much van for my wife. I can see Honda bringing it in to compete with the Toyota Scion line of stuff. I think the C pillar needs work though-too much like a cartoon C.
May 20, 2002 (10:33 am)
The Element attracts the attention of anyone walking by it. It doesn't matter if they are interested in buying one or not. You might be shopping for the S2000, but you'd have to poke your head inside an Element.
OTOH, the Pilot's appeal isn't in the styling. Only those folks interested in SUVs are going to bother with it.
I have doubts that the Stream's 7-seater configuration will meet US safety standards. Given the way that the first gen Ody was received, I don't see the Stream making a big impact on their marketing folks.
#337 of 4724 Stream...:-)
May 20, 2002 (10:48 am)
I thought the Element was the US version of the Stream...
Roomy, utilitarian, with 106" wheelbase.
May 20, 2002 (10:48 am)
What Honda should bring over is the Civic 5-door. Now that's a good looking car and would compete well with the Focus SVT, Matrix, Protege5 and scion stuff. Of course it would have to have the Si engine...(dreaming...)
May 20, 2002 (12:26 pm)
Yeah, the Si is nice. but very small. Or maybe the competitors are just much bigger now?
I like the Stream, it's very space efficient.
May 20, 2002 (6:00 pm)
Yes - bring over that Civic 5-door! It would be real nice if they dropped in the RSX's base engine. Ford is rumored to drop a more powerful Zetec into its Focus lineup.