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You are in the Honda Element
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Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
Mar 30, 2004 (12:59 pm)
BEFORE PURCHASING THIS CAR, PLEASE BE AWARE THAT ON MARCH 25, 2004 MY GOOD FRIEND WAS KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT. HE WAS DRIVING A HONDA ELEMENT. ACCORDING TO THE POLICE REPORT I RECEIVED SECOND HAND, HE WAS NOT UNDER THE INFLUENCE AND HE WAS GOING 85 mph WHEN HE HIT GRAVEL. THE CAR SPUN OUT OF CONTROL, FLIPPED OVER, AND CRUSHED HIS BODY. I WOULD FEEL MORALLY WRONG IF I DID NOT INFORM POTENTIAL BUYERS OF THIS CRUCIAL INFORMATION.
Mar 30, 2004 (1:46 pm)
My condolences for the loss of your friend.
Mar 30, 2004 (1:55 pm)
Let's hope others learn from this tragedy. You can't drive an Element like you would a sports car.
May your friend rest in peace.
Mar 31, 2004 (9:52 am)
Well, I've heard stories of BMWs wiping out at about 90 mph with the same results. Does that mean that sports cars shouldn't be driven like sports cars?
Mar 31, 2004 (11:10 am)
On public roads, probably not. US roads aren't built like the Autobahn.
Those speeds should be reserved for the track, when equipment such as roll bars and helmets are employed.
Honda puts a disclaimer on the sun visors warning drivers of the different dynamics a truck has vs. a car. I was implying that we should pay more attention to these types of warnings, for everyone's safety.
#3094 of 4724 85 isn't that fast in a normal car...
Apr 01, 2004 (9:53 am)
In an Element though. I don't think I'd do that. The U.S. interstated WERE designed for those speeds though. If the drum-braked barges of the 70's could handle 75 mph speed limits, the newer cars with the much nmore capable suspensions and brakes should/can handle 85 easily. If 85 were THAT dangerous there would be no drivers left in Ga. We'd all be dead.
Apr 01, 2004 (9:57 am)
But in the 70's we probably had half the number of cars on the road.
Apr 01, 2004 (11:46 am)
I mentioned the Bimmer as it shows that any car can become unstable at that kind of speed. While I am sympathetic to the loss in this story, I personally would not let it impact my purchasing decisions.
I mean, does anyone know of a car that has never crashed? Unless there is more to this tale proving some sort of fault with the Element, it's just a sad story.
Apr 01, 2004 (11:47 am)
A higher speed limit increases traffic flow. We really have twice as many inattentive and bad drivers on the road than in the past.
People will spend money to learn how to play golf and etc but they won't spend a dime to learn how to be a better driver. I can't think of any sport where advanced lessons won't improve your performance.
Common sense isn't an option that is available on the Element or any other car.
Apr 01, 2004 (1:28 pm)
Those lead sleds had very, very long wheelbases. The Element has a short wheelbase and it a lot more top-heavy.
Put it this way, would you have been comfortable doing 85 in an old 70s Jeep Grand Wagoneer? We had one in our fleet where I used to work, it was scary at 70!
Trucks have lower handling limits, but it's up to the driver not to push those limits.