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by bowke28
Aug 29, 2003 (10:14 am)
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oh...a 2WD...you didnt say that...lol. you cant get an EX in 2WD in a manual...only a DX.
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by ateixeira
Aug 29, 2003 (11:21 am)
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New and popular models generally are sent to dealers with lots of equipment. It's actually what most consumers want, believe it or not.
 
-juice
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by zenzikora
Aug 30, 2003 (3:37 am)
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I didn't say 2Wd in the first post b/c that dealer didn't have ANY 5-spds. The dealer I am going to today says he has what I'm looking for.
  And YES they make them, just not many I guess. . . And I realize most people will want more equipment (though in this case it's only 4WD or an auto that we're talking about, the rest is standard anyway), but if they really want the target demographic to be able to buy this thing, it doesn't seem like only stocking 4WD auto EX's is gonna help much, right? I can't see for me spending the extra 1400 when I would only want 4WD maybe 3 times a year; I don't want it unless I am actually slipping in the snow, and that's not that common really here in PA. This last winter was an exception of course:-o
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by anonymousposts
Aug 30, 2003 (5:24 am)
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bowke: Well that's strange because we test drove a silver EX 2WD and I'm pretty sure it came equipped with a clutch and one of those little doohickeys that you move back and forth on the dash.
 
Besides, you can build a 2WD 5-speed Element on Honda's website.
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2WD vs 4WD by aquaswimmer
Aug 30, 2003 (7:38 am)
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Yes Bowke, they do make 2wd EX 5spd. I've been driving one for the last several months.
 
It's very fun to drive..the stick shifts like butter.
 
I'll tell you what though...if I could go back and buy again I'd get a 5spd 4WD.
 
The stick 4WD's were not available when I bought my element and since I live in LA I thought I would never need it but I wish I had it sometimes.
 
The 5spd Element has a fair bit of torque and I find it can be somewhat squirrely on gravel driveways or when going up a steep hill and whenever I take a corner.
 
There's no limited slip differential and the lack is apparent.
 
It's not a big deal. It's not as if the E is not going to make it up the road or anything but I think it would have been nice to have power to all 4 corners and to not have to modulate the throttle to avoid wheelspin sometimes.
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Juice... by purduealum91
Aug 30, 2003 (7:41 am)
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If you were referring to my post, how is it only $200 saved? He purchased a 2WD EX not a 4WD EX. Thats more than $200 saved right there.
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2WD by zenzikora
Aug 30, 2003 (10:28 am)
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well we do have some snow around here, but I haven't had too much trouble in it with FWD, and neither have my parents etc. And I for one certainly don't mind a bit of wheelspin or torque-steer as long as it's controllable. I actually hate traction-control for that reason (at least GM's anyway), because I will do something expecting to squeal a bit pulling etc and compensating for it, then suddenly the power cuts out and I am pissed Don't know if all systems are nasty like that, but it made me look much ruder pulling into traffic.
   Anyway I may be buying my E on Monday if I can get my father to go along with me (to co-sign for credit)
   Poked my nose around one today at the local dealer but the salesguy I got was like a limp noodle :-o He couldn't even fold the back seats up against the wall. Then he pretty much just sat there, no explanations or sales pitches, then when I asked him if he could get the car I want (diff dealer than the one that has one) he says they don't do dealer trades, but he could get one if I leave a deposit. They are also closed on Labor day.
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by bowke28
Aug 30, 2003 (11:03 am)
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my bad, folks...i was thinking about the EX 4WD manual. i stopped selling hondas in feb., and it wasnt avail. then. sorreee.

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