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#21 of 4704
X appeal - by moonkat
Mar 05, 2002 (7:34 am)
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robertsmx:
 
I agree that the X (X-box) is fascinatingly appealing, and an ideal candidate for hybrid powertrain. Enjoy your 30th !
 
The most discouraging (unrealistic) feature of the vehicle for me is the bench seat!? I do not see how the cantilevered (off the center supports) seat can effectively (without flexing/sagging) support passenger weight.
http://www.honda.co.jp/motorshow/2001/auto/special/modelX-p/p01/index.html
I guess they could add folding outriggers for production vehicle, but I would have expected that in the pre-production vehicle. Very un-Honda-like in that it is contrary to Honda and X-box (model X) functionalism (function above all else).
I also have reservations about side-crashworthiness with the bi-parting doors, and sliding rear roof/tailgate combination. With both open, there is no "safety ring" as employed in their current generation of vehicles. Looks like there is only one structural ring at the a-pillar, with maybe another integrated into the door jamb/locking mechanism, but none at the rear. !?
 
My current impression is that it is based on CRV and will have AWD option.
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Thanks by robertsmx
Mar 05, 2002 (11:14 am)
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I too think it will have AWD as an option. I also hope it gets atleast the 2.4/I-4 from CRV.
 
Seats will likely change. Unlike other concepts from Honda, which are usually pre-production models, the X looks like a true concept vehicle, so it might see a few updates before we see a pre-production model later this year.
 
As for crash-worthiness, I guess we will have to wait and see.
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more X appeal by moonkat
Mar 18, 2002 (4:28 pm)
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Site of good summary info - tech & aesthetics:
http://www.automotive-technology.com/projects/honda_x/index.html#honda_x2
#24 of 4704
i kinda like it by subzero206
Mar 18, 2002 (11:21 pm)
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its not too bad looking, i like the interior and all the features. if they fix the front end a lil bit, make the headlights flush and make the roof more flat instead of that bloated look.
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Forbes - Future of SUV Article: by moonkat
Mar 22, 2002 (8:15 am)
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Excellent article on a new definition of "suv" with Model X article that focuses on features that attract me to the "X box".
  http://www.forbes.com/2001/08/06/0806feat_2.html
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by whatever_7
Mar 23, 2002 (8:45 am)
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Wow did you see you can roll a sportbike in the "box"? Right now I can't think of any SUV that can do it. Can you roll a bike in the Rav4?

Personally I rather have a Matrix looking crossover with the seat configuration of the "Box". I m graduating and i m moving out of the "demography". But Matrix's bed is way too high.

So I m not the only one who think it looks like a bulldog. (I _think_ Honda makes a different "bulldog" concept car, that's why the word bulldog jumped into to my mind the first time I saw the picture.) Hell, for that price I can airbrush a buldog on the split doors and not worry about the resell.

Do the rear seats have to fold up together? Can I have large item in the back and still seats 3 people? That s the only problem I have with it. Also, being a complete box inside there s no storage area. They better sell some bags along with it.

I dont see how you can add any luxary items or leather in the car, so everyone is going to add DVD/PS2/LCD system in it

-t

(edit, here is the honda buldog not as "bulldog" as this one i think

http://www.autointell.com/asian_companies/honda_motor/honda-bulldog/honda-bulldog-02.htm

)

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NY Auto Show Preview by moonkat
Mar 27, 2002 (6:48 am)
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http://www.cars.com/carsapp/national/?srv=parser&act=display&tf=/features/autoshow2001/concept/honda/model_x.tmpl
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Model X = Element by moonkat
Mar 27, 2002 (9:00 am)
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rsholland "Subaru Crew Cafe" Mar 27, 2002 8:20am
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whatever7 by carguy62
Mar 27, 2002 (9:25 am)
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It's a larger vehicle but Honda claims you can fit two bikes in the new CR-V without removing the front wheels. Of course you have to flip the back seats forward. They seem to get just a little more utility out of their vehicles than others.
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Honda Element Info by theracoon
Mar 27, 2002 (10:40 am)
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http://www.hondanews.com/forms/events/index.html?kwx=modelx

The 03/27/2002 announcement, plus there's a link to a lot of pictures (90 last time I looked).


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