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Honda Element, Hatchback, SUV
#1863 of 4724 anniversary?????
Feb 11, 2003 (8:04 pm)
well I'm breaking down and buying a used civic (maybe) I wanted to like the element , and I don't hate it, but its just like every other car I've seen everything seems so average, the 2 biggest draws to me are the tailgate and the fold up seats , and i just cant justify buying it over a crv unless resale ends up being better , which i find doubtful
even this civic I'm probably going to buy (if this crazy lady doesn't scare me off) doesn't excite me , and if it falls through I' wont be terribly dissapointed
im just not excited about it , but it appears to be a good fair deal at a reasonable price. I was planning on getting new and if this doesn't work out , and I have much more trouble out of trying to find a good "trustworthy used car" I'll break down and buy a new civic
"I think I'm like chris777. My head is spinning around different vehicles. The CRV, Xterra, Land Rover Disco, Mazda MPV, Suzuki XL7, Mits Outlander, Escape, VW Eurovan, etc. I like the Element mainly because I'm bored. "
yup its one of those things where it almost makes me want to learn how to design a car so I could just make what I want, but by the time I'd go through school for it, Id be ready to invent something else entirely lol
"Bottom line, not enough power for me. Now leaning to an 03 Accord V6. Sigh....:-|"
well I still haven't driven an accd yet, (I've been avoiding dealers since I was burned last month and my bs meter is busted from overload)
but I do more driving than I'd like , and from what I hear about that "lazy boy " seat in the accord I think I may just buy one if honda does the unthinkable (240 hp v6 WAGON) so I figure I'll buy a fairly recent used civic to keep from having new car depreciation (2000 lx w/ about 44k on it $8700) , plus I dont like how much accords are on insurance, that's on of the things stopping me from getting one of those now instead of later. I checked on a 94 accd from a family member and the insurance is higher than it would be on this 2000 civic , which i plan on getting and then just saving up to pay cash on a new car out right in a couple of years
if I don't get this one , honda has until summer to shave about 4000 off of an element , or offer another crv for around 16500 or less and I might buy that, its a shame too.
what's really bad is the scion bbx is looking more interesting, but I definitely don't like the horsepower listed on it.
I still would like to see something similar to the step wagon, which it looks like honda "borrowed" the elements fold up seats from, with a tailgate and ample power I would be hooked I still think a sport utility van would be awesome ,I still love the old toyota wagovans (safety issues aside) I think it would rock with a v6, and some 16 or 17 inchers and awd to boot, but I know thats dreaming
so I reckon im out on the element, unless it gets a severe discount, 2 or 3 generations with enough modifications (v6) , or a redesign (2007 or 8?)
so I'll buy something b4 summer, and hope, for lattitude, an accord wagon or maby something else if someone decides to shake the market up a bit
the dodge magnum looks interesting (hope the accord guys are listening)
that is unless I win an element in a local contest , i think I would find it acceptable for a 5 buck ticket lol
#1864 of 4724 World's First Element Rally!
Feb 11, 2003 (10:18 pm)
Hey all, the World's First Element Rally is only a few days away! We're meeting at 11:00 am this Saturday (2/15) at the Caddyshack in St. Augustine, FL. The Caddyshack is located in the World Golf Village just off I-95. After lunch we'll be convoying over to South St. Augustine Beach for some beach driving! I know of at least one E that will be in attendance, so if a second E shows up that will constitute the World's First Element Rally Forecast for this Saturday is 72deg, partly cloudy, and only a 10% chance of rain - so it should be a great day. Hope to see ya there!
Feb 11, 2003 (10:32 pm)
Speaking of which I am trying to get out of my 89 Civic Si 5spd. It still screams though. I redlined it the first minute I got it and still redline the thing to this day. Everytime I drive into a dealership some sales guy says "I have a buyer for your car" Is that a line or what?
Sometimes I hated the lack of power steering and clutching the thing in stop and go traffic. I think I'm going to miss though. Can move a sofa through the hatchback.
Lets get a perspective on the payload. Its for activities not moving gardening supplies. Geez. Its to take light alloy performance bikes not patio stones. Its to take surf or snow boards not drywall. The boomers are going to ruin this car although they are the only ones who can afford it.
I'm going with the autobox Element because I'm in cruising mode and not racing mode. Life's too short.
Feb 12, 2003 (4:13 am)
ropedart.. it's not a line. Those SI's are in high demand especially if they have been well cared for. Same goes for the CRX SI's and even the 93-95 hatches.
gator: I could see people's reaction to an Element convoy. They would swear we were getting attacked by aliens.
#1867 of 4724 Amusing it is,
Feb 12, 2003 (4:57 am)
The number of excuses why you can't haul yard supplies in your Element/CRV. Vehicles that are supposed to offer Utility (sUv). Buy a pickup (had one) buy a trailer (don't want one). Looks like cargo weight should carry a disclaimer "use only for aluminum chairs, bikes and people. No yard supplies - if you haul anything else, rent a trailer or buy a truck."
btw, varmint, the compost is sterilized and sealed in plastic bags, no odor. Yard fertilizer, in contrast, is much more aromatic. That was one example of hauling common supplies in response to a question of how often one might haul near maximum cargo weight. Unless you live in a condo or apartment, cargo hauling is part of living in a home.
#1868 of 4724 "recreation vehicle"
Feb 12, 2003 (4:58 am)
Seriously, the Element is marketed by Honda as a versatile passenger hauler not a work truck.
quote Honda- The removable flip-up rear seats let you configure the Element to fit most road-trip essentials, including your favorite taco sauce. And you can expect quick, simple loading of bikes, boards and more with the clamshell tailgate and side cargo doors. So grab your friends, stow your gear and get gone. Playtime just got easier. -end quote.
Intended use is people and road trip or recreation items.
Hmm I guess this means that it should be considered as a "play" car or an "extra" car. Anyone rich enough to have the Element as thier road-trip car is not likely going to be buying a honda. When I think of roadtrip vehicle I'm thinking Conversion Van!
Feb 12, 2003 (6:32 am)
Well, my brother does owe me money! And he's unemployed - the target Element customer! LOL
ropedart: the extreme sports look great on brochures and commercials, but let's face it - those booomers end up going to Home Depot ten times as often.
Even if you don't haul mulch, 675 lbs pretty much limits you to 3 big guys as passengers. Just 2 if they're linemen.
Back to the trailer idea, though, Honda could make a matching trailer, sort of like what the Prowler had, remember those?
Feb 12, 2003 (7:18 am)
It's hard to carry your toys in a conversion van. Better to have a big empty, like an Element, and put a tent up every night. In mho, of course
Then again, you'll be towing your toys ....
Feb 12, 2003 (7:37 am)
paisan is still drooling over the huge, full-size conversion they had at the Baltimore Auto Show. That thing had the works on it, including TWO televisions.
I guess you could watch extreme sports on them!
Feb 12, 2003 (7:44 am)
hehe, the way I heard it, he was drooling about the "hand model" who knew what TOD was