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#1686 of 1701 Re: Internet-enabled radio in the car has already begun [busiris]
Jan 26, 2013 (12:59 pm)
yes, a nuance. They are setting up a system to suck as much money as possible out of the customers, which will likely have the result of people cutting back on usage.
they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!
#1687 of 1701 Re: Internet-enabled radio in the car has already begun [stickguy]
Jan 26, 2013 (2:29 pm)
...they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!
IMO, the wireless carriers see themselves as entitled to some of the gold they carry.
In essence, its a sly way to change the business model... Sort of like me sending you $100 each week through the mail and one day the mailman says to himself..."Sure, you paid me to deliver the $100 by purchasing a stamp, but now that I realize I've been delivering something of value to you, in a reliable manner, I'm entitled to a little piece of the action as well".
Carrying data only pays so much...a bit like "Time to increase the size of my piece of pie... Bigger piece of the same size pie, or same % of a bigger pie... ".
Either one works...
Feb 11, 2013 (2:56 pm)
I have a 2011 Nissan Quest. It came with the free trial of XM, and I let it run out. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed the GPS was throwing up weather warnings - and sure enough XM is operating. I never re-subscribed - did this happen to anyone before?
Feb 11, 2013 (3:37 pm)
They have this in a lot of the rental cars I drive and it's quite enjoyable to say the least! But if one has a large enough inventory of stored music on cd's or a flash drive, it can be almost as good for a fraction of the cost. That's just what I listen to when a vehicle has no SAT radio like yesterday. I really like the 60's and 70's channels but my flash drive does almost the same thing except they have more of a selection. I've only got about 675 on the drive and I eventually will rehear stuff but SAT radio has the better variety but it just costs so darn much if one can't get the the phone person to get you a lower rate. If my car had it I'd love it but hey, I don't even have a aux plug or a usb port in my '06 Civic, something I deperately miss. My next vehicle will definitely have it!
#1690 of 1701 Re: Sirius/XM [sandman_6472]
Feb 12, 2013 (11:24 am)
Every once in awhile they will reactivate for a week or two at no cost trying to get you to resubscribe. I think the latest promo around here ends today. A few days ago I was taking a long drive and decided to tune it in. But it was the same thing; constant DJ blabber, listener phone ins, etc. Within 20 minutes I was back to my CD's. I want to listen to music, not DJ's and phone ins. Just reaffirmed for me my decision to let it lapse.
Feb 21, 2013 (3:02 pm)
Hi Steve, after I bought my 2013 Subaru Forester, 5-speed MT, with mix/match add-ons I wanted, I spent the most money of any after-build item on a Sirius sattalite radio install. Not even the version with a blue LED panel sitting over the gear shifter. This one looks like nothing was ever added, but I do pick up maybe 5 channels of not classic rock, try a Spanish station playing music that 1st came out on 78's! The auto-trim shop that activated my free trial period didn't send me anything but a channel line up, no good if proramming it is what I needed. a pro-car-audio installer, my salesman showed up, sat next to me dazed & confused, waste of both our time. Unless it starts doing what every reference on the Sirius models I studied-up on tells me it will do well. It stays only an annoyance and embarrassment to any passenger hearing junk just turned their ride with me something they should hav brough their own MP3 player. When free trial runs out I will call Sirius and cancel their incomplete features. Increasing the volume just distorts the sound bad, and honestly out of 140 commercial free but puntuated by motor-mouthed DJ's singing this radio's praises is worse than commercials. When the freebie 140 channels only have maybe 10 stations playing tinny music on a loop, with just one soft-rock elevator music that comes in then fades out and the Elvis channel takes over offering balanced out against around 100 channels of sports, news, comedy, financial, weather, chat-shows, bible thumpers, and all the junk I don't want to hear like it's coming out of a mono 8-track fossil! Not a so called state of the art music breakthrogh complete with genres, jerks, J-birds and aging has-beens. I will leave it insde the dash LED display, but if Siruis wants to get serious, then I expect crystal clear perfect recetption, complete with eyes-on scrolling artist facts, from the album titile, track, released year and genre. Too picky U say? Go listen to it in one of your loca auto dealerships for a good feel on just how sub-standard Sirius is no cheap waste of your cash, and tell me U don't slip a CD into the bay to hear what your favorite music is supposed to sound like before you even have one of these junkers put into your honey of a new Subaru Forester, I double-dog-dare-U! I asked the Sirius sales ep why my reception was so horrible, her answer "It depends where you are an certain stations only come through clear close to a wi-fi relay-tower. I'll remember that next trip I take to New Mexico, or Alaska! Steve, your feedback would be useful. I really wanted the Sirus music-only deal, but if living miles from a relay tower, then I my as well switch and keep it off.
#1692 of 1701 Re: [broken_arrow]
Feb 21, 2013 (3:13 pm)
Maybe I misunderstood, but you had an aftermarket unit installed? I'd take it back and try a different model, sounds like you got a lemon. Maybe find a better shop as well. I'd be unhappy too. Does Subaru not have the service available in a factory stereo unit?
I just bought a new car, and had an aftermarket unit in my old car. The Sirius trial was already active, and I simply migrated the old subscription over, took about 15 minutes on the phone. Went off without a hitch. Everything works perfectly in the new integrated unit, and some stations even offer year of release info.
Feb 21, 2013 (6:30 pm)
I haven't listened to Sirius since we house sat for a few weeks near Taos about 3 years ago. The "coffee house" channel was enjoyable.
Being frugal, I got a $5 FM transmitter gizmo for playing MP3s on a USB stick when I'm in my old Outback and can't pick up anything on the radio. But I'm no audiophile.
It does sound like you got a lousy install or unit. Maybe you can swing by the dealer and listen to an OEM one and compare notes.
#1694 of 1701 Re: [broken_arrow]
Mar 01, 2013 (2:45 pm)
I'll begin by saying it sounds like your equipment installation was improperly done, or you have a defective or poorly designed unit. So, verify its not your problem before proceeding.
Having made that clear, its important to note that for the average listener, most will be satisfied by the quality is Satellite radio music.
However, one with exceptionally good ears, or a true audiophile may not be very pleased with the sound quality of satellite-transmitted music, even when it's at its best. Just as the MP3/4 format deletes part of the audible frequency range (to compact the signal) and will never sound as good as a .wav file, satellite transmission does that even more. Occasionally, you can hear a song over Sirius/XM that sounds like one of the stereophonic tracks got lost, but I don't notice it very often.
If it really bugs you, I suggest you simply listen to CDs. That way, you get the next best thing to a pristine analog album.
Apr 29, 2013 (4:24 pm)
"Startup automaker Detroit Electric plans to be the first without a radio when it rolls out its first car in August — audio will be delivered via smartphone.
"AM and FM as a delivering mechanism isn't going to be the most important in cars anymore," said Thilo Koslowski, a vice president at technology research firm Gartner Inc."
Automakers tuning out traditional in-car radios (Detroit News)